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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 04:20 PM
The Lynyrd Skynyrd web site has an October 1 date for the Allman Brothers Band and LS at Hi-Fi Buys Amphitheatre. I am glad to see Atlanta get a show, but very disappointed that they did not plan another Fox Run. Maybe they will, but I would be quite surprised if the guys played Atlanta twice during the fall. I know the Fox's schedule was pretty full but there did appear to be a window for the ABB to schedule a run.

One the bright side, this makes last year's Fox run even more special to me.....is that actually possible?? I think many of you will agree that was the greatest three days of music in modern Allman Brothers Band history.

 
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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 04:38 PM
Did the Skynyrd site give an on-sale date?

 

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 05:14 PM
No onsale date was listed.
 

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 05:41 PM
I guess that means about 2hrs or 2hrs 15 mins of the ABB ?

 

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 05:55 PM
Yeah, but it's a GOOD 2 hrs and 15 mins. I sure would like another "evening with ..." somewhere, sometime soon.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 07:52 PM
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I am glad to see Atlanta get a show, but very disappointed that they did not plan another Fox Run....

One the bright side, this makes last year's Fox run even more special to me.....is that actually possible?? I think many of you will agree that was the greatest three days of music in modern Allman Brothers Band history.


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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 08:26 PM
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One the bright side, this makes last year's Fox run even more special to me.....is that actually possible?? I think many of you will agree that was the greatest three days of music in modern Allman Brothers Band history.

We were there all 3 nights last year and I have to say they were in the groove. The Fox Theater is always an awesome place for concerts and ABB ripped that place up. The Instant Live's from those shows are all excellent. I can't quit listening to the Fox series and have to agree, this is the best I have seen them in ATL since 1989.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 08:30 PM
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Yeah, but it's a GOOD 2 hrs and 15 mins. I sure would like another "evening with ..." somewhere, sometime soon.


Right you are. And what is not advertised in the tickets is an early evening or late night with the Bro's and Sis's from this site.

This will make the Fox run of 2006 even better.

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 10:18 PM
THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! F**k Skynyrd. Countless fans have said they don't want to see the two together anymore, and this is what they do. bull****.



On another note October has the last 3 weeks open at the Fox, but they won't be there. I'm extremely disapointed.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2005 at 11:21 PM
I've definitely had enough of the Skynyrd pairing....I don't understand what the ABB gets out of this, especially since every time, a large portion of the LS fans leave after their set is done.

It seems to be a relationship that benefits LS much more than ABB.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 08:45 AM
SInce I have seen the current formation of LS on HDTV, I can definitely say that I will skip the LS opener and show up just for ABB. Here in ATL, LS draws a more rowdy crowd. The last LS Fox show many years ago was a different crowd altogether.

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 09:02 AM
Doubt seriously they'll do a Fox run if they have already have a date at Hi-Fi Buys Ampitheater, the reason for that is that most venues require that any major act playing their venue refrain from playing that area for at least 45 days before and after the date. No place wants to book an act and then see sales for that show go down because people would rather see the act play some place else. An that's a generally accepted practice in the concert business.
 
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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 09:05 AM
Lee, I'm still holding out for that Louisville Palace show.

It's a shorter trip for you anyway

 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 12:05 PM
I'm not a fan of the current formation of Lynyrd Skynyrd. I can name any number of acts that I'd rather see open for th ABB (if I can't have an "Evening With ..." show).

But Lynyrd Skynyrd has put some butts in some seats. From a busines standpoint, it means more money for the ABB. Sure there are some Skynyrd fans who cut out after their set. There are also a lot of ABB fans who don't walk into the arena until after "Freebird".

Say what you want about Lynyrd Skynyrd, but I must afford them this bit of thanks. They had a BIG hand in preserving the Fox Theater ("Ma Bell" wanted to tear her down for a parking lot). Their presence during last years City Stages Festival (Birmingham) brought in enough dollars to keep that festival afloat for another few years.

Perhaps the best part of having the Atlanta show at the amphitheater is that you can sit out in the lot ("throwing rocks", if you so desire) and hear Skynyrd's set, and then go to your seat for the ABB.

For me, the best thing about putting the ABB and Skynyrd on the same stage on the same night is that all of those "southern rock" labelers can see and hear for themselves that there is really very little similarity between the music of the two acts.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 01:07 PM
The fans have spoken !!

 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 01:40 PM
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Lee, I'm still holding out for that Louisville Palace show.

It's a shorter trip for you anyway


I hope we do get a local show in Indy, or even Louisville this fall. I am off in a couple of hours to Cleveland for tomorrow night's show and then again next Wednesday to Cincinnati for the moe. / ABB show. Both should be great nights.

I have to agree with Rusty. The Lynyrd Skynyrd / Allman Brothers Band combination is good for filling seats in larger venues. As unfortunate as it is, the Allman Brothers Band cannot sell out the "sheds" like they use to do. Plus it seems the entire tour business is a bit slow right now. People are not spending to dollars they have in the past for shows. I have not see the LS / ABB combination myself, and I would prefer to see anyone else open for the ABB, but as long as our guys are still touring I will just be happy to see them playing live. I have been to more than 130 Grateful Dead shows and 25 Allman Brothers Band shows. There is one statement that is very true, there is nothing like a Grateful Dead show.....but in my opinion, the Allman Brothers Band are right there with them. So let's all just be happy to see a great show by our band!!

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 02:45 PM
My first ABB show was also my first LS show and I really enjoyed both. I am not sure where the animosity from the fans comes from in regards to this set up. Would I have liked to see more Allmans? Yep, but the wife isn't a fan but she came because LS was playing. I had a great time and the musical styles are completely different so it was a good change of pace.
 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 06:08 PM
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My first ABB show was also my first LS show and I really enjoyed both. I am not sure where the animosity from the fans comes from in regards to this set up. Would I have liked to see more Allmans? Yep, but the wife isn't a fan but she came because LS was playing. I had a great time and the musical styles are completely different so it was a good change of pace.


It's not animosity, I don't think. I did see the lineup in Charlotte last year, and the Skynyrd fans were obnoxious. It reminded me of why I didn't like country music concerts. No matter how good the music the fans don't make it fun. They're disrespectful of the people around them and they didn't bother to stick around for the ABB. A lot of them left, I should say, but a few did stay.

If they were going to do a co-bill, do it with the Black Crowes next time!!

 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 06:39 PM
...I'm pretty sure Jaimoe mentioned to someone from here at The Beacon this year that they did look into doing The Fox again but it was pretty booked up with shows and theatre stuff like plays etc. Jaimoe said something like: "Alll those damn plays" or something to that effect...he might of said "F*ckin' plays" but you get the idea. He seemed kind of pissed that it couldn't be done this year though. Oh yeah, by the way, I dislike Skynyrd, quite a bit in fact. ....They should definitely co-bill with The Crowes or Panic - now that would be GOOOOD...
 
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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 07:17 PM
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As unfortunate as it is, the Allman Brothers Band cannot sell out the "sheds" like they use to do. Plus it seems the entire tour business is a bit slow right now.


For the first part, if there's any large venue that the Allmans could sell out, it's probably Lakewood. But, the second statement is the key one--very few bands are selling out any large venues at the moment.

If they couldn't book the Fox, that's fine. However, there are other medium-sized venues they could have jumped on (if available.) If I'm not mistaken, Dylan played a three-night run at the Tabernacle not too long ago. The higher ticket price that comes with a smaller venue will make up for the ticket sales that go with the larger one.

After having been to a few of the LS/ABB shows, I just can't justify making the trip from Memphis to ATL for this one. Call me a bad fan (which most of you who know me know I'm not), but I'd rather save the cash for an extra Beacon show come March than pony up the dough for a wasted hour or so of Skynyrd and a "greatest hits" set from the guys, which is pretty much what I've been handed at every LS/ABB double bill.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2005 at 07:47 PM
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...I'm pretty sure Jaimoe mentioned to someone from here at The Beacon this year that they did look into doing The Fox again but it was pretty booked up with shows and theatre stuff like plays etc. Jaimoe said something like: "Alll those damn plays" or something to that effect...he might of said "F*ckin' plays" but you get the idea. He seemed kind of pissed that it couldn't be done this year though. Oh yeah, by the way, I dislike Skynyrd, quite a bit in fact. ....They should definitely co-bill with The Crowes or Panic - now that would be GOOOOD...



You're exactly right Eddie, except that it was at Wanne instead of The Beacon. And it was "f"'ing plays. He seemed as dissapointed as we are.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2005 at 12:21 AM
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SInce I have seen the current formation of LS on HDTV, I can definitely say that I will skip the LS opener and show up just for ABB. Here in ATL, LS draws a much more rowdy crowd and brings out some of the worst that Ga. has to offer. The last LS Fox show many years ago was like walking into rowdy redneck grand central. Sad to say, but it's the truth.



From a fan of both bands, that stayed for ALL of both shows on more than one occasion..This is my take on the Skynyrd/ABB billing..There are bad fans at any show. While the Skynyrd crowd may be loud, and rowdy, I had this experience from my seat on the 2nd row. I had to wake up the people on the front row to tell them the ABB was on the stage and playing. I think in Atlanta, I will yell Git' her done and then Smoke ya another one. And yes I know all about opinions.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2005 at 12:25 AM
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For me, the best thing about putting the ABB and Skynyrd on the same stage on the same night is that all of those "southern rock" labelers can see and hear for themselves that there is really very little similarity between the music of the two acts.

Worst ABB conversations I have experienced......

me - "My fav band is the Allman Brothers Band"

response - "Oh, are those the guys that sound like LS?"

LS has a rep and a great history that deserves their place in rock. I was a fairly good fan back in the late 70's...but ABB's true live talent was obvious when I saw them at Chastain Park ATL in 1989. I was hooked ever since, and it was the live performance that hooked me. Both bands had major radio play in my days, and LS stood out until my live ABB experience.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2005 at 01:13 AM
The billing of these two professional acts together is pure
marketing by management. It only makes sense to draw the larger crowds
which in return bring more to the bottom line.
Folks this is a business and should be operated as such.

Too many professional musician attempt to manage their own careers
and fail terribly. It wasnt lack of talent it was lack of planning.
Plan your work and work your plan, if you fail to plan, then plan to fail.
Look at some of the things some of the other big name acts do to keep
their acts on top and excellant exposure resulting in big record sales too.

Jimmy Buffett is a genious at marketing himself, his music
and keeping a gage on what works best for him and his fans.
teaming up with even the country star kenny Chesney,
attracted fans from a wide array.

Carlos Santana did the same thing with Rob Thomas and smooth,
hit number one on the charts I think and turned his career around.

Not that LS can do anything to brighten the ABB careers,
the ABB can only help LS. As Gregg and Butch have stated before,
there is no such thing as Southern Rock. Rock music was born down south.
Elvis would have never made it w/o Colonel Tom Parker,
a remarketable man with his promotional skills.
Parker had enough sense to know it was a business and Elvis listened.

We might be seeing the Rolling Stones still touring and rocking
sold out stadiums in many years to come, it is the money.........
Even these guys couldnt touch Gregg's version of Heart of Stone !
I personally don't feel LS is even in the same league !
still in double A looking to move up a few notches!!!
If LS had the right marketing crew, make some changes
in their band and get some well know, good , young talent.

Derek IS now as good as Eric Clapton or Hendricks or any other legend out there touring. It is like Duane is up there with him. I started watching him play guitar as a little boy
appearing often in Jacksonville. He was amazing then.
let him and Warren sit in for a few LS songs, you would see the talent..............


 

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  posted on 7/11/2005 at 08:57 AM
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The billing of these two professional acts together is pure
marketing by management. It only makes sense to draw the larger crowds
which in return bring more to the bottom line.
Folks this is a business and should be operated as such.

Too many professional musician attempt to manage their own careers
and fail terribly. It wasnt lack of talent it was lack of planning.
Plan your work and work your plan, if you fail to plan, then plan to fail.
Look at some of the things some of the other big name acts do to keep
their acts on top and excellant exposure resulting in big record sales too.

Jimmy Buffett is a genious at marketing himself, his music
and keeping a gage on what works best for him and his fans.
teaming up with even the country star kenny Chesney,
attracted fans from a wide array.

Carlos Santana did the same thing with Rob Thomas and smooth,
hit number one on the charts I think and turned his career around.

Not that LS can do anything to brighten the ABB careers,
the ABB can only help LS. As Gregg and Butch have stated before,
there is no such thing as Southern Rock. Rock music was born down south.
Elvis would have never made it w/o Colonel Tom Parker,
a remarketable man with his promotional skills.
Parker had enough sense to know it was a business and Elvis listened.

We might be seeing the Rolling Stones still touring and rocking
sold out stadiums in many years to come, it is the money.........
Even these guys couldnt touch Gregg's version of Heart of Stone !
I personally don't feel LS is even in the same league !
still in double A looking to move up a few notches!!!
If LS had the right marketing crew, make some changes
in their band and get some well know, good , young talent.

Derek IS now as good as Eric Clapton or Hendricks or any other legend out there touring. It is like Duane is up there with him. I started watching him play guitar as a little boy
appearing often in Jacksonville. He was amazing then.
let him and Warren sit in for a few LS songs, you would see the talent..............

Some think that fans come before marketing. Screw marketing. Just play smaller venues if you can't sell out the big ones. They have played about 20 or so shows and have not sat in with each other at all, so I doubt it will happen. ABB will make them look silly if the did.



 

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