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  posted on 6/11/2005 at 02:05 PM
IS THE dEREK Trucks Band Anything like ABB?
 
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  posted on 6/11/2005 at 03:49 PM
no.... www.derektrucks.com

 

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  posted on 6/11/2005 at 04:45 PM
They are not like the ABB at all to my ears. Much more exploration into musical styles than the ABB.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2005 at 04:51 PM
yeah exactly, dtb covers more of a broad spectrum, but there are a lot of threads that run through both bands at different times

 

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  posted on 6/11/2005 at 10:34 PM
I guess I wouldn't say that they're not like the ABB at all, but they're not especially close sounding. Not a rock band in anyway, really. More of a jazz band than anything, but definitely varied. I've only got the Soul Serenade cd so far, and that is an excellent album. Especially Bock to Bock. The Wes Montgomery version is probably still my favorite, but Derek does an excellent job there.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2005 at 09:00 AM
The DTB doesn't sound like the ABB to my ears either but I can see where people could compare them...

I've got all Their CD's and the band is very eclectic...

In Order:

1) The Derek Trucks Band: A varied album... only one track with vocals (555 lake)... Good jazz on this one including covers of Mr. PC, Naima and Footprints... some sorta avant-garde tracks like Evil Clown and Egg 15 (which definitely have a Jimmy Herring influenced sound to them - to my ears anyway).

2) Out of the Madness: This is an album heavily steeped in the blues... Which I definitely could have voted for as blues album of the year when it came out (1998)... great opening cover of Preachin Blues(my favorite version of this song)... and then onto Young Funk which definitely shows the fiery funk side... Jimmy Herring and Warren are all over this album... with warren doing vocals on a solid good morning little school girl, and also on Death Letter which could be the sister song to Old Friend off the last ABB album (dual acoustic with lots of slide)... This one also has a killer rendition of Ain't That Lovin You (with a triple threat of guitar work)... Some more instrumentals with Look-Ka-PyPy and Kickin Back.... The album ends with Delteraga, which is an OLD school finger picken blues tune (instrumental)... I hear a lot of Jimmy influence on this one as well but not surprising since he's on so much of it...

3) Joyful Noise: This just might be my favorite album as it is all over the map... It starts off with Joyful Noise (this version is probably my least favorite as the song has improved over time and is much better as a live vehicle IMO)... this one has a lot of guest singers from Home in My Heart with Solomon Burke which is powerful and yet simplistically funky... and the Indian tune Maki Madni with Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn... and Kam-Ma-Lay with Rueben Blades which both are sung in other languages and yet very moving... My favorite track on this album is Like Anyone Else, which is one of the slower tunes on the album and features Solomon Burke Again... I love the call and response between the vocals and Dereks Slide.... I don't want to forget to mention So Close So Far Away which is a smooth modern Jazz tune and feels like it wouldn't have been out of place on Soul Serenade.... Every good Boy is a side of the DTB you don't really hear too much... and this alos has Baby Your Right with Susan Tedeschi on vocals... Lookout 31 is a frenzied jam song which I love and miss in the rotation and the album ends with the sultry Frisell....

4) Soul Serenade: Now this album displays just how eFFen smooth these guys are... The ablum starts with a short intro of Soul Serenade into Rastaman Chant... and then onto Bock to Bock... and then onto Drown in My Own Tears with Greg Allman on vocals (the only blues tune on the disc) - this one uses Gregs voice perfectly IMO... Then onto Afro Blue which showcases Kofi's flute playing, overall I like this much better the the ABB version... This one also has Elvin and Sierra Leone on it... This album is about as smooth as they come...

5) Live at Georgia Theatre: This is definitley the only one that gives you a peak at what the DTB is now, as it has mike on vocals... This has a lot of songs from Joyful Noise on it plus alot of covers like the gritty Leaving Trunk and also Freddies Dead gonna move... This also has a killer combo rendition of Sahib Teri Bandi/Maki Madni which is probably my favorite opening song (although not an opening here)... The For My Brother on this disc is fantastic... Feel So Bad, Volunteered Slavery and I Wish I Knew are also played here.... This disc is the only competition for "my" favorite DTB album - they just keep growing and growing... My fav track off this one is Sonido Alegre which is a 15 min tour de force in interplay and solos, with a very latin samba feel to it (this is also the only competition for Like Anyone Else as my fav DTB track)... I think if you are looking for your first DTB album, this will give you the best picture of them now as a live band.

Your not going to go wrong with any of them...

 

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  posted on 6/12/2005 at 09:18 AM
Just find any live show off archive.org. You can download them free, and they give you a better feel for the band now than the albums. You really can't go wrong with any of them, my personal favorite is 11-12-04 at the Chance Theater.
 

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  posted on 6/12/2005 at 10:17 AM
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Just find any live show off archive.org. You can download them free, and they give you a better feel for the band now than the albums. You really can't go wrong with any of them, my personal favorite is 11-12-04 at the Chance Theater.
That was the snow show!

 

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  posted on 6/12/2005 at 01:03 PM
There are TONS of great shows on the archive... I love 9-11-04 and aw forget... there's too many to list... but when your ready to support the band none of the albums are bad...

 

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  posted on 6/12/2005 at 01:10 PM
9/11/04 was a great show! Abi and me were there. Tracy and Greg too, and Tommy Booth, and joyfulnoise. Speaking of joyfulnoise aka Nick, that is the day I loaned him some videos of the ABB, he hasn't been the same since.....

 

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  posted on 6/12/2005 at 04:18 PM
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IS THE DEREK Trucks Band Anything like ABB?


Only one way to find out my friend...give 'em a listen and judge for yourself...I think you'll be impressed,

 

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  posted on 6/13/2005 at 02:00 PM
The Derek Trucks Band is a lot like "Mountain Jam" and "High Falls"

The Derek Trucks Band is sorta like "Statesboro Blues" and "Stormy Monday"

The Derek Trucks Band isn't much like "Ramblin Man" or "Midnight Rider"

The Derek Trucks Band plays kinds of jazz and Eastern music that the ABB doesn't play at all

The ABB plays straight-ahead rock/pop that the Derek Trucks Band doesn't play at all

 
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  posted on 6/13/2005 at 06:03 PM
eh, it's when people try to make comparisons like this that show how stupid it is to make them at all. They are EXACTLY like the ABB in that theyre great band full of great musicians who play great music, is that not good enough? If you like good music you will like DTB.

and for the last post, if gonna move isn't pop, i don't know what is.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2005 at 07:26 PM
Yea Gonna Move is def. there most poppy, easy to digest song for the masses. So for the hardcore DTB fans I'm sure some are tired of it. It's a nice song, but usually I just wait for Kofi's and Derek's solos in it cuz I've heard it many many times. But hey, atleast its a good pop song, haha.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2005 at 07:51 PM
I like it cause we see Susan a lot on it...

 

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  posted on 6/13/2005 at 09:19 PM
haha yeah Pam there's great stuff on there, sorry we haven't crossed paths so i could give them back,hopefully we'll all catch a show together somewhere
 

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  posted on 6/13/2005 at 10:50 PM
The dTb has a lot of the same influences as the ABB - original blues guys, electric blues, jazz - but goes in a lot of different directions with them. They play more pure jazz than the ABB, and they also have a bigger Eastern influence.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 07:05 AM
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haha yeah Pam there's great stuff on there, sorry we haven't crossed paths so i could give them back,hopefully we'll all catch a show together somewhere
As long as you learned a thing or two from watching and listening you can just hold on to them for now. No rush...


Back to the DTB now, I "feel" the music in a real different way with the DTB, it is not in any way similar to how I "feel" the music of the ABB. Tough to explain, but Derek encourages you to close your eyes and be at one with the music, the ABB is more like close your eyes and feel the excitement around you...or something like that. Derek plays in opposite directions in each band.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 08:27 AM
Wow Pam that's pretty deep, I just think he looks cool...

 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 08:43 AM
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The dTb has a lot of the same influences as the ABB - original blues guys, electric blues, jazz - but goes in a lot of different directions with them. They play more pure jazz than the ABB, and they also have a bigger Eastern influence.

That pretty much sums it up I think in just a few words...

I think other reasons for "some" of the differences are the fact that the ABB has seven instruments and the DTB only four. You have to approach music a little differently with a smaller ensemble. You are forced to play tighter in a smaller band - I don't mean with more expertise, I mean tighter beats and rhythms. The ABB has more layers and textures to work with so the "colour" of the music is slightly different. As both a musician and a fan I kind of "see music in colours" and I'm glad I do. Maybe its the Deadhead in me, but I always felt that way...Music IS colour, music lives and breathes and takes on different forms. Phil Lesh had a great quote one time about music...Phil said: "Music is Life, Everything else is just waiting around"...Yeah, I agree with Phil...Music is life or at least a very important part of it.

All I know is, I am really glad we have Derek and The ABB in our lives. I feel very blessed. I feel like we're all in on the world's biggest secret.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 10:24 AM
My last post certainly isn't definitively accurate. I just thought it might be useful to somebody who had no exposure to the DTB, give them something to go on.

Eddie has a good point about the difference between a small band and a large band. Might I also suggest that one of the biggest differences here is between a band that plays for 50,000 people at Bonnaroo and a band that still plays clubs and theaters that hold 1000-2000. Derek's music is more intimate in a way as a result, where the Allman Brothers music has a largeness, a kind of majestic grandeur that you can't get in a small club.

And of course, they're both great in their own way

 
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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 11:42 AM
I liked Rob's last post. I thought it was pretty helpful. I would, though, say that "Midnight Rider" is significantly closer to the dTb sound that "Ramblin' Man" is.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 11:52 AM
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Phil Lesh had a great quote one time about music...Phil said: "Music is Life, Everything else is just waiting around"...Yeah, I agree with Phil...Music is life or at least a very important part of it.


That is my take on life, too. Amen!! Nice quote.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 12:11 PM
dtb is one of the most unique bands ive ever heard in my life. they are certainly very explorational but it makes for a beautiful musical style. their biggest difference from the abb is the world influences. theyre an awesome group. so many good jams like "pedro"
 

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  posted on 6/14/2005 at 04:16 PM
Thanks for all the nice Replies i'll check them out as soon as i can.
 
 


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