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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 12:50 AM
I was talking the other day with Wheelchairbandit(a good compadre)........and we're talking why Dickey changed the original key of "Blue Sky".......from the original key "E" to "G".........for me the original key is much better.......you know why?????

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 12:53 AM
maybe Marley will know........just curious about this

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 12:58 AM
Probably it was done to accomodate Dickey's voice. The key of Southbound was changed too. His voice is lower than it was 30 years ago, and his range isn't the same.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 01:02 AM
Isn't lower the original version???????

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 01:06 AM
Southbound first was on "C" and then on "D"........sorry but im trying to understand this

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 02:17 AM
Yes the key of E is lower than G so that isn't the reason. Besides, Dickey altered the key to G way back in the mid-seventies before his voice even changed. We've had this discussion here a few times before and I don't think anyone that knows for sure has ever really explained the reason for this. The key of E sounds much better to my ears and probably to most peoples...and of course it was done that way on the "Eat A Peach" album so it sounds more natural that way. The only thing I can think of is that soon after he recorded it he decided he wanted it more "twangy" or country sounding so he decided to change it. Who the hell knows...its just one of those things I guess. If you listen to a recent ABB version like at the Fox on 9/25 you'll notice the guitars sound an awful lot like the original Blue Sky even though Dickey isn' there. The vibe and tempo are there as well - it has a nice and easy flow to the song. Derek does an uncanny job of sounding like Duane and Warren does those little pedal steel-like bends or fills that were on the orignal recording as well that had been absent up until now...
 
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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 02:20 AM
I'd go with what Eddie's saying.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 06:54 AM
I think Dickey changed it to G to make it sound a bit more like a country tune.Pick up your guitfiddle and play it in E,and then try it in G,and you'll see what I mean.

Les Brers In A Minor is actualy played in G,which is the relative major of A minor (it's REALLY late for me so don't quote me on that).

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 07:06 AM
...all sounds like music to me....

I remember sitting next to EasyMichael in Raleigh this year when Blue Sky was played and asking him, "What key is this?"
He said "E" ...I was basically just kidding, since, again, I'm not savy enough to know the difference....

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 08:38 AM
I'm not real up on my music theory, but I seem to recall that C is the relative major of A minor.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 09:24 AM
I don't know ANYTHING about music theory, but I was plunking around on my acoustic bass last night to Les Brers, and the root of the bass riff intro is A, so I am thinking the key is, in fact, A.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 09:28 AM
Back on topic, transposing keys is a common practice in live performance. It puts less strain on the old vocal chords to sing one step (read a full note) lower than on the recording.

Personally, if a song is written in the key of C, it should be performed in the key of C. I can always tell if a song is transposed live. It just doesn't sound right if it's not performed in the same key as the recording. IMO

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 09:30 AM
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Les Brers In A Minor is actualy played in G,which is the relative major of A minor

Actually it is played in A Minor- or else it would be called "Les Brers in G Major".
...and for those musicians keeping score: "A Minor" is the relative-Minor to C Major.

A BIG edit....

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 10:06 AM
...and for those musicians keeping score: "A Minor" is the relative-Minor to G Major.


is not "E minor" the relative minor to G major

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 10:07 AM
Isn't Farrah Fawcett a former relative of Lee Majors?

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 10:16 AM
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is not "E minor" the relative minor to G major

Yes, I mis-typed. A Minor is the relative Minor to C Major NOT G Major. Man you guys got my head spinning today... I give up.






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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 10:16 AM
It might have been in E because Duane used to play slide to an open E chord.
 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 10:20 AM
No, that wouldn't be the reason. There is no slide in "Blue Sky" and Duane was in standard tuning for that song. Why doesn't someone just ask Dickey and then we'll know the reason for the key change?...
 
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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 10:29 AM
It's possible that he likes soloing in G better than E, or there could be more 1st position riffs that he can do while soloing.

It does give the song more of a country flavour as well, so that could be why.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 02:13 PM
Speculation based solely on the Eat a Peach "Blue Sky," since I haven't studied (learned the solos) on other versions:

Besides getting a more country vocal twang or whatever happens from transposing higher, did Dickey as guitarist perhaps want to make use of more (all of the) open strings in G? The original solos and all don't really use the open strings much. Since the soloing was mostly based on E pentatonic major (1 2 3 5 6), the "available" open strings would have been just (low to high)
e = 1, b = 5, e = 1;
the a = 4, d = 7 and g = 3b mostly wouldn't have fit; of course, there was the regular chord modulation swinging back and forth between E and A, so they did get those 3bs and 4s in there a bit.

In G all of the strings would have fit the pent Maj:
e = 6, a = 2, d = 5, g = 1, b = 3, e = 6
Not only are all the strings in the G pent Maj, but all five notes of the G pent Maj are found in these strings (though spread over a couple octaves). Cf. the E pent Maj, where you get just two of the five.

So, has anyone studied Dickey's subsequent "Blue Sky" solos closely enough to determine whether Dickey was soloing, or doing other stuff, with lots of open-string action? Do Warren and Derek noticeably use the open strings much on "Blue Sky"?

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 02:30 PM
Les Brers In A Minor is actualy played in G,which is the relative major of A minor (it's REALLY late for me so don't quote me on that).

i won't...the song is in a minor which is the relative minor of C....

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 02:32 PM
And my step dad was a major in the Army, and my 13 year old daughter is a relative minor to me, see?

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 02:34 PM
got it

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 03:35 PM
I remember Major Nelson from I Dream Of Genie. And thank God I have the gift of playing by ear. I can play anything I've heard any time I want and it all sounds like who ever played it! I don't have to worry about notes but I do know chords and all keys. I just don't need 'em.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2004 at 04:19 PM
Actually, Les Brers is in G major. For Dickey's first two instrumentals he put them in G and had the basss play in A Dorian which is in the key of G and it's a minor mode. If you look at the chords to Les Brers (they're Am to D) you'll see that they're in G. If it was in C the D would be minor. I don't think the A Minor part refers to the key I think it refers to a as a/an. Kind like "a goat".

[Edited on 11/16/2004 by PeachForPeace89]

 

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