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  posted on 11/12/2004 at 11:17 PM
http://stores.musictoday.com/store/product.asp?dept%5Fid=1541&pf%5Fid=DECD2 75&band%5Fid=171&sfid=7

 

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  posted on 11/12/2004 at 11:22 PM
That actually looks like a dick's pick worth it. 10.9.76 is a sweet show from a kinda forgotten year bor the boys given that '77 is worshipped universally. i always wanted way more representation of late 80's to about '91 maybe some of early '92 dead, but they're weak at putting out much brent sh!t. too bad.

but anyway that looks like a must. DP33

mule 1 week from today, friday 11.19 @ the showbox here in seattle. nice.
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  posted on 11/12/2004 at 11:23 PM
St. Stephen>
Not Fade Away>
St. Stephen>
Help On The Way>
Slipknot!>
Drums>
Samson and Delilah>
Slipknot!>
Franklin's Tower>
One More Saturday Night

Looks smokin i might have to pick this one up... I dont have any 76 dead. This looks like a keeper


Dancing In The Streets>
Wharf Rat>
Dancing In The Streets

Thats a weird one

 

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  posted on 11/12/2004 at 11:25 PM
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'91 maybe some of early '92 dead but they're weak at putting out much brent sh!t. too bad.


Not trying to sound like a no it all bitch but Welnick and Hornsby played keys in 91 and im pretty sure early 92. I picked up dicks picks 17 recently its a great buy for some good hornsby stuff

 

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  posted on 11/12/2004 at 11:43 PM
vinnie joined in on 9.7.90 richfield, oh. w/hornsby full on a week later or so. then bruce stuck it out til about march of 92. he wanted at any of the 92s i saw and i guess i was at 12 or 14 gigs from summer to dec. that year. hornsby rich, full sound energized that fall 1990 run-some fun shows there for sure..and he and jerry really had a deal going where they locked in pretty commonly. but apparantly bruce was kinda miffed that jerry wasn't super willing to mix up the tunes-always fire after scarlet and always rider after china cat except onece in a blue moon an eyes>fire or a playin'>rider, but again that was rare. anyway thats the story.

obviously this dick's picks does reflect a day when the dead DID mix sh1t up-mixin' up those tunes and shakin it up. love it.

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 12:08 AM
I have a tape of the second disc...it's one of my favourites of all time because it's a very trippy performance.

It will be nice to hear it without the cut in it.

I love the way Help goes into Slipknot, into drums, into Samson...that's just awesome. What's really neat is the way after Samson ends with them saying "Tear this whole building down", there's silence for maybe a second, then Jerry just picks up the Slipknot solo right away with just a few notes...like it's taking off or something, and of course the band just jumps into the groove.

I have converted a few friends with that tape...the One More Saturday Night is powerful too...it was a great second set.

The Who played with them both days...one day opening the next closing, or vice versa.

Great second disc I will totally vouch for that portion of the release...I hope the rest of the CD's are as good.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 12:29 AM
I've always kind of thought there were some strange selections for some of Dick's Picks. I like the Dead but would hardly call myself an expert on them, but many serious Deadheads say the same thing. Not a complaint, mind you, just an observation.

I would be hard pressed to name a favorite, but I really like #17, 9/3/77, Englishtown, NJ...maybe cause I was there...at least I THINK I was, lol. Not my favorite era (although a great era nonetheless), for my money give me the Dead with the Pig, when they were more blues oriented I guess you might say. Late 60's and early 70's, including after Pigpen passed, they were on fire. Once in the 80's, it too often was DOJC (Depending On Jerry's Condition)...

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 08:16 AM
nightfall of diamonds has some nice brent era music...
i like dick's pix 15 because of the nice he's gone into the 20 min version not fade away...
steppin out with the GD has some decent pigpen on it, plus the only release of the stranger(two souls in communion)...
it's just great that this music keeps pouring out...let there be songs to fill the air

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 11:36 AM
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steppin out with the GD has some decent pigpen on it, plus the only release of the stranger(two souls in communion)...


The stranger was also released on Dicks picks 30 and Rocking in Rhein

i aslo agree night fall of diamonds is a great album

As far as best dicks picks thats probably gonna have to go to three. Three includes a Esitmated>Eyes>Terrapin Station(no lady w/ fan)> Wharf Rat> Dew jam thats spectacular

Im also fond of 30 with jerry playing pedal steel on looks like rain

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 11:51 AM
Any copies out there of the December 1978 Miami Fronton Grateful dead show?

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 12:02 PM
The Who and the Dead on the same ticket. Must have been an unusal show. Sort of reminds me of fear and wonder as combinations. Are there any reviews of this show?
 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 12:03 PM
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Any copies out there of the December 1978 Miami Fronton Grateful dead show?


If your refering to december 12 then yes i have a soundboard copy.

drop me a pm and ill set u up with a b n p

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 03:18 PM
thank you for the correction snowballer...wasn't this the set of shows where either daltrey or townsend asked jerry what they were going to play, becasue the who played the same thing every night and jerry just shrugged...i believe that i read that in one of my dead books, family album i think.
 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 09:45 PM
I read that too Jeff, and I think it is the same show.

Townsend was also the one...grrrr...who introduced Jerry to chasin' the dragon if I remember correctly.


 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 10:04 PM
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thank you for the correction snowballer...wasn't this the set of shows where either daltrey or townsend asked jerry what they were going to play, becasue the who played the same thing every night and jerry just shrugged...i believe that i read that in one of my dead books, family album i think.



You still want that bnp??

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 10:41 PM
Jeff mentioned Nightfall of Diamonds, I like those disks a lot. I like Garcia's solo on Built to Last, he seems to step on the wrong MIDI pad right off the bat and it makes for a weird moment. Incidentally, I love the DPs, but I do think they should have more Brent era show. Brent is one of my favorites and I really think he is underrated.
 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 11:07 PM
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I read that too Jeff, and I think it is the same show.

Townsend was also the one...grrrr...who introduced Jerry to chasin' the dragon if I remember correctly.




i feel like a fool but i have to ask, whats chasing the dragon? i'm guessing heroin

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 11:09 PM
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if you have highspeed internet you should seek it out on archive.org. if its GD and not commercially released they prob got it in SHN and streaming.

too bad ABB wasnt on there!

 

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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 07:25 AM
snowballer, what bnp are you talking about?

what about dozin at the knick or the dead go to nassau? those are of the brent era and while i haven't listened to nassau, i think that the blown away on dozin' has some great brent vocals and sweet jerry guitar work...

 

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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 09:39 AM
"Chasin' the dragon" is a way of smoking heroin; I read that in Scully's book. Up until then, Jerry didn't do heroin as easily because he wasn't a needle guy...but being able to smoke it successfully allowed him to do it regularly. I don't know how he did it before Townsend showed him...but check Scully's book for the "facts as he sees them.

I saw a fair number of Brent shows, and I was on the last tour he did, from RFK on.

He was incredible...he could sing, groove and solo...the band couldn't replace him successfully, imho, with two players; Hornsby and Vince.

I saw 23 shows in 1990, the Knick shows-all three nights, the 1990 MSG fall run with the Sept 20 show that Dicks Pick chose to release, and other ones that will hopefully see the light. The Brent contributions in 89 and 90 are many...he was only getting better.

First show was July 4th 1986.

My last show was 1995 St Louis on summer tour. I saw my only Unbroken Chain, and my last Eyes of the World. A nice way to go out...I can't believe it's almost 10 years.


 

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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 11:29 AM
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smoking opium, in chinese opium dens with the dragon imagery there
is the root of the phrase.

But I have heard it used to discribe any opiate based habit, smoked, injected or otherwise.

Like in "Rush Limbaugh was chasing the dragon"

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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 12:32 PM
I loved brents singing on harmonies its just some of his songs were a little lame. Like tons of steel and Just a little light, although his voice was good the songs kinda sucked.

And then theres we can run.... good message, bad song

 

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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 06:15 PM
I thought "We Can Run" was preachy...not very "Dead-like". I like the message, but I always respected Hunter, Garcia and Weir's approach to songwriting...leaving it open to interpretation.

Brent was an incredible part of the band...with him, especially in the late 80's, they would get into a groove that seemed to last the whole show.

I can honestly say that they were at their musical peak as a band in the late 80's.

Now some might feel Jerry wasn't as good as he was in the late 60's and early 70's, and that may be true...but Weir never stopped developing so they offset each other because Bob was better in the late 80's than late 60's, and the keys and harmonies got better in the late 80's, hence my feelings on it being their best musical era.. as a band. Phil even stepped up as the decade drew to a close...maybe the Heinken buzz started to wear off around then.

Sorry for the run-on sentence.



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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 06:50 PM
One thing that attracts me to 80s shows is the jams were more mixed up. In the 70s although the playing was for the most part tight the jams would either revovle around Hes gone>Trucking>Other One or and Eyes>Estimated or something along those lines. You saw a lot more mixed second sets in the 80s

 

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  posted on 11/14/2004 at 07:21 PM
The 90's had their surprises too...I'll never forget the Help>Slip>Fire I saw at the fall Boston Gardens run in 1991, or Jerry thrownin' out "That Would Be Something" in the same run, the Hey Jude song Brent did in Hamilton 1990..I think the 70's are great but the late 80's/early to mid 90's had the song selection goin' for it, as well as great sounds via the Midi to change it up a bit.

The band was really opening up the song vault too in the final year...Unbroken Chain came out and they were working on more if I remember correctly.

 
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