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  posted on 10/29/2004 at 01:25 PM
Like we know Warren Haynes gave a great contribution for the Allmans resurrection...

Many peoples think that the first "Hendrixian" licks with the ABB comes with Warren...Expecially in first 90's....

What do you think about this?

Do you hear some of Hendrix when Warren plays with The Allman Brothers?


 
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  posted on 10/29/2004 at 11:37 PM
I hear a lotta crap wanking and **** screech slide playing/

 

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  posted on 10/30/2004 at 01:32 AM
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I hear a lotta crap wanking and **** screech slide playing/
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Yeah, so I

I don't think Warren have something in common with Hendrix when he plays with the ABB!

Another question is when he performs with the mule.......he probably use some "Hendrixian Sound" but he's so personal.....

 

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  posted on 10/30/2004 at 10:02 AM
I don't hear a lot of Jimi when Warren plays with the ABB, but with the Mule? Yes, sometimes. Sin's a Good Man's Brother on the Deep End and Perfect Shelter on the new album stick out to me.

 

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  posted on 10/30/2004 at 01:30 PM
Warren brings out a Jimi influence big time when PLQ plays Watchtower.
 

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  posted on 10/30/2004 at 05:22 PM
Warren not to affend some people is awful at guitar. Some of his stuff was ok but recently hes been having too many off days. many people hoo have seen warren with plq say he spend more time fidling with his equipment then soloing.

Also if u listen to most abb his solos are just a bunch of licks and they have no flow. I love warrens voice but he could drop the guitar today and id be happy.

and i know the abb is caught in a pickle because without warren they pretty much vocally have no band.

And on another note if u notice warren hasnt been having any guests with gov mule and hasnt been guesting with other bands. I hear this is beacause his ego is too big for other people to want to play with him.

 

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  posted on 10/30/2004 at 07:57 PM
Like you know I think that Warren is the best blues - based guitarist today.

Anyway I agree with the fact that in the last 2 years he had the best things with the ABB.

When a musician plays with two bands and like a soloist, he can lost something sometimes...

 

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  posted on 10/30/2004 at 09:21 PM
warren the best blues based guitarist??

BB king
Clapton
Duane Allman

Three blues guitarist off the top of my head who blow him away

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 04:41 AM
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warren the best blues based guitarist??
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Of the last 14 years!

Since SRV!

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 09:53 AM
No damn way I no for sure jack pearson blows him away. and he had his peque in the last 14 years

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 10:33 AM
I wouldn't say Warren is the best blues-based guitarists of today either. There's too many other people to decide.

I kinda agree with Snowballer, Warren's a screecher but if it wasn't for him the ABB wouldn't be around anymore.

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 04:34 PM
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Like we know Warren Haynes gave a great contribution for the Allmans resurrection...


How could such a crap wanker and sh*t screecher manage to do that? And why would the ABB even want such a bad guitar player to join them?

As for Warren's ego being to big; ya think it may have more to do with the man being TOO BUSY already?

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 04:45 PM
Warren is an ubelievable musician. In the past year or 2 he's been relying more on his signature licks. I think that the ABB are the band with which he explores the most, he's willing to push the envelop with them a lot, both with his soloing and with his rhythm playing. That's a bit weird considering the ABB mostly are either playing straight blues or straight jazz, with his other bands he's playing funkier arrangements. But that's the way I hear it.
 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 04:46 PM
As for his influence on the ABB, he's completely revitalized the band to make it a relevant entity... twice. I don't think you can say that for that many people.
 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 05:23 PM
Ok Snowballer269, I am gonna try to be gentle while saying this. But, are you DEAF? I know its all a matter of opinion and everyone has a right to one, but, Warren is the best thing around voice, guitar and the whole package.
And as for the person he is, I think you couldn't be more off. Warren is the last musician on earth who has an ego. I have not personally met him, but, I have seen him on numerous occasions and friends have met him and they ALL say he is the most down to earth guy and a very warm person. It kills me to think anyone could say anything less of him.
Take time to get the know the man behind the music. I think you will be pleasantly surprised!

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 06:08 PM
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Warren not to affend some people is awful at guitar.

You have to qualify statements like that, because he's much too in-demand as a guitar player and too successful to actually be awful. You want to hear awful? Come on over and I'll play for you.

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many people hoo have seen warren with plq say he spend more time fidling with his equipment then soloing.

Like hoo? I've seen Warren with Phil a bunch of times. Derek adjusts his guitar much more than Warren does, and Warren only uses two or three effects.

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And on another note if u notice warren hasnt been having any guests with gov mule and hasnt been guesting with other bands. I hear this is beacause his ego is too big for other people to want to play with him.

I'm sorry, this is just wrong. He sits in with other bands all the time, and if people didn't want to play with him, why would they play with the Mule?

 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 08:06 PM
Warren, like we know, was elected "The Best Slide Guitar Player" by "GPM in '95 &'96..

The most recently "Rollin' Stone" list of the Greatest Guitarists took Warren at *23...

Of course every peoples have their opinions about "The Greatest Musicians of all Times", but when a player is so considered I think there are some reasons!


 

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  posted on 10/31/2004 at 09:29 PM
Warren may apeal to some non guitar players but all his solos are the same. there just a bunch of licks thrown together.

And warrens voice is wats more in demand than his playing. and if u havent noticed hes only in two bands at the time

 

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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 01:59 AM
Ok snowballer marley might have been gentle but i won't be. In order to qualify some of the statements you've said you've got to answer some questions. Namely who do you think you are to challenge a musician like Warren Haynes? like him or not you've got to respect what the man has done and he is a helluva guitarist. Also along those lines are you a musician yourself cause a few of those quotes of yours, namely, "his solos are just a bunch of licks thrown together with no flow" or whatever you said sound like either a musician that doesn't have very good ears or somebody who read about solo's in a magazine and decided to make use of it here. Just wondering thanks! and listen to Desdemona or Rocking horse one more time before you answer.
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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 02:19 AM
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Warren may apeal to some non guitar players but all his solos are the same. there just a bunch of licks thrown together.
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Snowballer are you serious?

If you hear tracks like "Birth Of The Mule", "Trane" and "Rockin' Horse", you can say there are the same solos?

Today Warren Haynes have the best sound, it's difficult to find a guitarist that can play "Look over Yonders Wall" and "Afro Blue" so easily and expecially with personality like him..


 

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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 09:07 AM
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Snowballer are you serious?

If you hear tracks like "Birth Of The Mule", "Trane" and "Rockin' Horse", you can say there are the same solos?

I do understand what he means by that comment. I think he says it too strongly, but Warren does have a lot of licks that he uses over and over. More live than in the studio. I'm a guitar player myself, so the 'non-guitar player' thing is a little snobby- and it's obviously false, since we have tons of guitarists here and many of them love Warren's playing.

 

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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 10:41 AM
The ABB would not have made it into the 90's without Warren, let alone still be around in the 21st century.

ALL guitarists have their signature licks that they reference, especially when they are improvising. Do you think that Warren hits them TOO MUCH, or do you just notice them when he plays them? I have seen Warren play live around 20 times, and not once did I think he was using the same old licks. That's kind of like saying you can't use the word "the" too often when you are talking. It's a part of the language.

Some of my favorite players' solos are just "licks strung together", Chris Duarte comes to mind. But when you do that long enough, it can be as good or better than any other way of playing a solo. Listen to Walter Trout, he has one lick that he uses OVER AND OVER, but I've never heard anyone complain about his soloing.



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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 11:05 AM
Snowballer, I am sure that organizing a Jam/ Benefit for Habitat for Humanity every year (16?) doesn't require much of his time or attention....It probably comes together by it's own self.
 

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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 11:46 AM
its an opinoin hes bad at guitar. especially slide.

HIs voice is fine

Wat he did for the abb was great.

 

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  posted on 11/1/2004 at 01:57 PM
Derek has signature licks as well, and from what I hear he played them nearly as much as Warren plays his own in the context of songs. However, throw in a copy of 9/1/04 and listen to the jam before WDLGTBSS. There are no signature licks there. I think Phil Lesh said it best, Warren is one of those few guitarists (Derek is another) who is able to forget everything that's happened before him and focus on the now. He's able to shrug away all his influences and merely adapt himself to whatever situation he is in. He's not a Deadhead, nor does he know the whole Dead catalog perfectly, but he's able to infuse each song with his own style and treatment so as to keep the spirit of the song but make it completely different. That is why I compare him, and others do as well, to one Jerry Garcia. That's a compliment very few musicians are worthy of.
 
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