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  posted on 7/2/2020 at 06:38 AM
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Sandy Koufax from the same era and Steve Carlton. I am a sucker for old time players so I have always liked reading about Carl Hubbell, The Meal Ticket. What a nickname.
Having said that, I won't argue with Spahn. Still like Hubbell though.




Yep the Meal Ticket - authored the greatest game in history in 1933 - the Giants LHP went all 18 innings in a 1-0 shutout of Cards - 6-hitter, 12 Ks - incredible -

30 years to the day later, the one we all know about, Spahn-Marichal, July 2 1963 - 15 shutout innings, SF wins 2-0 on Willie Mays’ HR

Sandy Koufax went 96-27 in the last 4 years of his career - even Spahnie & the Meal Ticket never had a four-year run like that -

on the mound, Sandy’s final season (1966, 27-9, a sick 1.73 ERA) was the equal of Big Papi’s at the plate (2016, .315 BA, 38 HR, league highs in RBI, 127, & doubles, 48)



[Edited on 7/2/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 7/2/2020 at 05:08 PM
We never would’ve had the Spahn-Marichal classic if the umps hadn’t blown the call on what would’ve been Willie McCovey’s moonshot game-winning HR bottom-9th, that they called foul

Stretch said in later years it may have been the longest ball he ever hit, fair or foul - he insisted, as did mgr Alvin Dark & others, that it was fair

Willie was a good guy & joked that mayb the blind mice in blue couldn’t be blamed for blowing the call “b/c the ball landed in Oakland”

Spahn & Juan were teammates at the end of Warren’s career, why there isn’t a photo....


[Edited on 7/3/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 7/3/2020 at 02:07 PM
Tom Cheney?
Amazing what people like me who think they’re knowledgeable fans, learn for the first time

All he did was pitch a game in Sept 1962 that was the equal of Hubbell’s or Spahn-Marichal

The Senator brought a career 9-18 record into the game vs local rival Balt

Handed the ball, this journeyman RHP incredibly morphed into Cy Young for a night

Pitched all 16 innings, fanning a record 21 batters in his 2-1 win, scattering 10 hits w/a mere 4 walks


[Edited on 7/3/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 7/4/2020 at 07:50 AM
Taking away Chief Wahoo wasn’t enough
It figured
After 105 years of thrilling their fans as the Tribe, The Cleveland Indians are likely to go the way of their beloved mascot (I feel ya Pop) - even if they decided on the Spiders, they’ll have disappointed a legion of fans - besides, “the prospect of a Spider bite which can be lethal & worse would be upsetting to fans,” OMG
They’ll end up as the Lakesiders or Eriemen or some baloney like that

They’ve been an institution of the nation’s capital since 1937 after their 1st four years in Boston
Their fans greet each other w/“how”
Now PC & its icky ilk say “how offensive”
So Redskins soon enough’ll cleanse their fans’ tortured offended souls & become the DC Demons, wait that’s PiC too....
Washington Americans
Washington Native Americans?
Memo To PC Clowns, Fans Don’t Give A Hoot, Just Leave The Stinkin Names Alone

I hope Braves fans rally to keep their name, even resorting to the tomahawk chop if they have to

[Edited on 7/4/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 7/8/2020 at 06:34 AM
We all remember the Billy Martin-Reggie Jackson dugout dustup at Fenway Park after Billy pulled Reggie outta the game claiming he loafed on a ground ball in RF

Wattabout July 8 1951

When Casey Stengel likewise yanked the Yankee Clipper himself, Joe DiMaggio, outta the game after Joe made an error in CF

Joe was in his last season and had indeed slowed down
But most agreed this was a bush move & according to info, “further strained an already acrimonious relationship” between the 2 NY heroes

Joe & Casey didn’t have it out in the dugout like Billy & Reggie


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  posted on 7/8/2020 at 11:27 AM
I'm not a Redskins fan, so I have no attachment to the name, but it's a pretty ridiculous one for a sports franchise. They are only the "Red" skins because they moved from the Boston Braves' stadium to Fenway and football teams liked to have synergy with the more popular MLB teams (Lions & Tigers, Giants, Bears & Cubs, Pirates, etc). Factor in how racist GP Marshall was and that white people chased most of the natives away from the Potomac centuries ago, the name applies about as well as Jazz does to Utah.

I'm surprised that Wahoo ever resurfaced, it's a ridiculously dated caricature. I always found the Indian sports chants pretty silly, glad I grew up with the Brewers and not the Braves.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2020 at 06:50 PM
“You just go & lay your hand
On a Washington Redskins fan
& I think you’re gonna finally understand”
hehe

Am sure Charlie is liking his 1st few days in the promised land
& btw, all would do well, esp powers that be, to take a listen to the CDB’s Indian Man

Well - the Redskins were the Boston Braves their 1st year (1932)
Maybe, as a compromise, to restore the original name of the franchise....

The Washington Braves? Keeping intact the Native American connection but in a less offensive way maybe? After all no one seems to mind the Atlanta Braves
Guessing they’ll pick Americans (Senators??? ) - go out on a limb they won’t

I’m an Indians fan, mainly thru my dad who grew up in Cleveland - you couldn’t be a Tribe fan & not love the grinning face of Chief Wahoo - still have my pennant

 

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  posted on 7/9/2020 at 06:53 PM
So the rooftop seats for Cubs games this year are going for $350-$400 a pop.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2020 at 07:38 AM
At the end of the day......
Ray Caldwell’s 9.2 innings of 5-hit relief preserves NY’s 17-inning 7-5 win over Browns
It was the end of the 1917 night when the hard-living RHP had his troubles - arrested by St.L police for grand larceny after stealing a woman’s diamond ring

1932, same thing
Despite giving up a record 29 hits in an 18-inning 18-17 win over Indians, A’s P Ed Rommel gets the win after a 17-inning relief stint necessitated by the fact that, to save train fare, Phila owner/mgr Connie Mack only brought 2 pitchers
Mayb they lost, but Chief Wahoo & his Tribe cheered themselves hoarse as OF Johnny Burnett went 9-for-11 at the plate, another record from that game that stands today

Yeah good to see Cubs got the average joe in mind when setting ticket prices
Internet headline said all 30 teams tentatively scheduled to begin full season April 2021
They’re rusty, they’re out of shape, some are staying home...
players will drop like flies if MLB goes thru w/its 2020 mini season - it’s ridiculous, so are the NHL’s & NBA’s summer plans

 

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  posted on 7/10/2020 at 08:39 AM
Brewers have been airing their scrimmages on facebook this week. Usually I'd just listen to the the feed but there's no crowd and no announcers. Just the cracks of the bat and the ball hitting leather.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2020 at 01:14 PM
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The Washington Braves? Keeping intact the Native American connection but in a less offensive way maybe? After all no one seems to mind the Atlanta Braves
Guessing they’ll pick Americans (Senators??? ) - go out on a limb they won’t

I doubt they will just go back to being the Braves, even though that's less controversial. If they are going to go through the lengthy process of rebranding I imagine they will shed any native american iconography, especially seeing the Indians under the spot light. Why just go half way and have to do it again in 10 years?

Highly doubt "Americans" or "Senators". In the age of merchandise, trademarks and corporate identity, why would they choose more MLB names? Teams such as the Red Sox were originally called "Americans" because they were in the American League - Washington is in the NFC, and Washington Nationals is already taken.

I saw "Red Tails" suggested, which would be a nice way to retain "Red" and tie in with the Air & Space Museum.

Also, The Washington Generals offered to sell their name, but not sure Snyder wants their W-L record

 

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  posted on 7/10/2020 at 07:09 PM
Compromise is good tho, by meeting them halfway they could please the hardliners who want it changed, & fans who don’t want it changed but would accept Braves to keep the image/specter of the proud red man - invoking at the same time the franchise’s original name, pleasing the historically minded - then if it needed revisiting in later years.....

Americans would round off nicely w/the other 2 DC teams, the Nationals & Capitals
The Generals - that’s my favorite one - marching down the field - Red Klotz would live forever - watta Washington legend

So Blackhawks & Braves are OK, Redskins & Indians aren’t - it’s BS

[Edited on 7/11/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 7/11/2020 at 09:37 AM
Who could forget it - a frail Mickey Mantle saying he was no hero but a bad example to follow/idolize - this was after his liver transplant surgery - 25 years go by quickly

I thought Mickey was too hard on himself, he played a lot of his career w/that bad knee he blew out in that drainage grate in the OF at the stadium - other injuries followed, yet he still hit 536 HR i(that was from memory!), ncluding some of the longest ever

Mickey would pass away the next month, Aug 13 1995 - just 4 days after that of another all-too-soon-departed loved cultural icon, Jerry Garcia

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  posted on 7/11/2020 at 12:44 PM
There was a restaurant in Manhattan, just south of Central park. It was called Mickey Mantle's or something. I guess his family owned it. So years ago I went in there, got a sandwich and a Diet Coke. $32. This would probably be like 50 bucks today. For a sandwich and a drink.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2020 at 08:19 PM
WOW - yeah even today upscale teams like NY, LA, Tex, also Fenway probably, charge-&-get prices like that - $20 for a hot dog, $25 for a beer......no thanks
After that grand slam to the wallet, I hope Mickey’s cookstaff hit a grand slam HR w/the sandwich they served up

Hopefully they just call the season off, it’s both the sensible And PC thing to do - they’re a leg up on it w/their recent decision to go business as usual in 2021 - pitchers & catchers report in Feb, spring training/practice games March, Play Ball April 2021, & how nice - fans allowed

But they need to stick to that almost regardless of virus status - realize it’ll be in the multi millions, but they still need to play regardless - can well understand where veteran ump Joe West is coming from on this -

hopefully players wouldnt be wearing masks in the dugout - & no masking fans, they’re there to cheer

[Edited on 7/12/2020 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 7/12/2020 at 07:32 AM
To clarify - Don’t Make Masks Mandatory
People can wear them if they want, - point is, Don’t Restart if concessions are closed/masks are mandatory etc etc - being muffled while trying to cheer a HR/great play, it’s dumb & they should forget that idea & instead not let people in the stadiums in the first place

What would it sound like - fans cheering thru masks
Pretty darn weak imo
Fielders wouldn’t have to but what if catchers & ump had to wear masks - on a hot humid day, forget it -
batters would have to wear em too
So no, if it’s all this as part of restart, FORGET IT
& no playing to empty seats either, that’s not baseball - compromise 6 feet social distancing mayb but even that’s weak

Saw somewhere recently, NL is going to DH?
All 1 can say is, wtf


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  posted on 7/14/2020 at 01:58 PM
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Saw somewhere recently, NL is going to DH?
All 1 can say is, wtf


[Edited on 7/12/2020 by Stephen]



Yes, they are going to the DH this season (if they play it) for all games. This season aside, I personally don't care if the N.L. has the DH or not. Kind of. While if I was king of the baseball world, there would be no DH. That being said, I just want both leagues to play by the same rules. The inter league games put the road team at the disadvantage. Magnified during the World Series.

Oh, and who was the first DH in baseball?

 

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  posted on 7/14/2020 at 05:21 PM
Might be a little late on this, on July 4, 2020, at historic Luther Williams Field in Macon, Ga. a baseball game was played by two teams of the collegiate league. I've posted before about our team The Macon Bacon, and the mascot Kevin Bacon (the real Kevin Bacon has done promotions for the team).
On the aforementioned July 4, the Macon Bacon played against the newest team, the Macon Eggs.

Yep, billed as the Bacon and Eggs series.

https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/macon-bacon-defeats-alter-ego-the -macon-eggs/93-20988790-57b0-4633-a40a-d850c8a95e29

 

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  posted on 7/14/2020 at 08:23 PM
I love the names - the Macon Bacon, Savannah Bananas - the Bacon & Egg series, awesome - that’s what sports needs, a return to the Fun of it - but just good seeing em on the field!

Pete Broberg doesn’t count, I say it was Chacha (hehe) - no it was Broberg (1st DH, didn’t hafta lookemup )

It was cool having Cepeda, Marichal, Aparicio & those greats play out their careers in Boston

 

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  posted on 7/14/2020 at 09:00 PM
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Pete Broberg doesn’t count, I say it was Chacha (hehe) - no it was Broberg (1st DH, didn’t hafta lookemup )



Holy sh!t was I ever wrong - did look it up, Pete Broberg was a pitcher for pete’s sake - it was Ron Blomberg - soundalike names tripped me up but still shoulda known
but nothing changes, Chacha was still the man!

 

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  posted on 7/14/2020 at 09:34 PM
This I think I have right:yawn:
OTDate, 2 Braves legends belt their 500th career HRs, becoming just the 7th & 8th ever to attain the milestone

...as Eddie Mathews, now an Astro, takes Juan Marichal deep at Candlestick Park, 1967
....& a year later, again playing SF, Hank Aaron hammers one off Mike McCormick in Atlanta

 

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  posted on 7/15/2020 at 12:05 PM
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Pete Broberg doesn’t count, I say it was Chacha (hehe) - no it was Broberg (1st DH, didn’t hafta lookemup )



Holy sh!t was I ever wrong - did look it up, Pete Broberg was a pitcher for pete’s sake - it was Ron Blomberg - soundalike names tripped me up but still shoulda known
but nothing changes, Chacha was still the man!



Yep, Ron Blomberg. Fat guy for the Yankees. '73 I want to say.

 

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  posted on 7/15/2020 at 12:13 PM
You guys have any thoughts on the rule this season for any extra inning game to put a runner on second base to start the 10th inning?

 

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  posted on 7/15/2020 at 04:12 PM
So The Chicago Dogs, an independent minor league team started their season last week in Rosemont, IL., north of Chicago, The ABB actually played up there a few times.

I tried to get my buddy to go and see them but he wouldn't budge. Too scared. My wife and I are going to go to a game. I think The Big Ten Conference HQ is there if I recall. Bill Murray and his brothers have a place right up there too.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2020 at 06:22 PM
Jesus - the centennial of the greatest pitching duel ever
Yes I said greatest Ever! :so?:

Rube Benton, 17 shutout innings as the Giants beat the Pirates 7-0 July 16 1920 at Forbes Field
His opposite #, Earl Hamilton - the game of his life - 16 shutout innings b4 finally tiring & the seven-run 17th
Rube, a 9-hitter for the shutout despite 4 NY errors

Some of these blurbs would read like fiction/a John Tunis novel to the uninitiated
Can’t believe this game isn’t up there in bright lights alongside Spahn-Marichal as GOAT in pitching

[Edited on 7/16/2020 by Stephen]

 

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