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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 05:08 PM
Oh Rob...I can see the Kurosawa talks now...about how the prisim of ones self colors the view...please don't make me the bad for your good.

I have seen many, many deaths that were pot-related. No overdoses though. Body bags have a certain smell when you open them. Almost like Christmas when you open a new gift.

I have seen the things that people say I have no knowledge of... Strange statement.

Chet started out smoking pot. ( Oh no! Not another one of those gateway drug supporters!)

You all need to talk to Bird72. He knows the deal; he got the T-shirt.

Don't listen to me at all...I only know body bags....almost 30 years of them. I don't exist. I never tried to help anybody...I never dedicated my life...

[Edited on 9/30/2005 by TanDan]

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 05:30 PM
TanDan seems from his posts to be a medical professional..........so am I, and I must chime in here. There seems to be a professional opinion on the effects of marijuana vs. alcohol and other drugs in the medical community, and I have formed this opinion from personal experience. First, I worked at Kaiser Permanente as a Respiratory Therapist for 7-1/2 years. Probably because all employees belong to a Union, they did not drug test. However, I had a conflict at work and my Manager referred me to the Employee Assistance Program, a sort of confidential psychological counseling and help service, free to employees. I really didn't think I needed to go, but that's another story. The counselor asked me questions about my substance use. I told her I didn't drink or use any other drugs, but smoked marijuana. She seemed very accepting of this, never tried to caution me or refer me to an abuse program. The only disclaimer she offered was, "I want you to understand that it stays active in your system for quite some time after smoking, and in your urine for long after that." End of subject.

I recently quit that job and went to work for another hospital which DID drug test. Since I worked there some years past, I wasn't too worried about passing it. My "health screen" was scheduled for 10:00 AM; when she asked me to pee in a cup for her, the nurse added, "we're looking for narcotics in the bloodstream." Now what does that tell you? Easy interpretation: We're not looking for pot. I passed the test. And interestingly enough, I noticed on the receipt she gave me that the test included alcohol as well as narcotics. Seeing as how the test was given at 10:00 AM, this seemed very appropriate to me.

Now look at my two experiences, and they should tell you that professionals in the medical field are of the opinion that many of their employees smoke marijuana and it's OK. Now let me add a disclaimer here: Anyone who comes to work stoned in a caregiver capacity ought to be immediately relieved of their duties, and put into counseling and probation. I'll go with the position of Medical management, rather than that of any of the naysayers here who would deem to put pot on the same level as narcotics.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 05:40 PM
Let me add one more specifically for Daisymae: I took another drug test this summer for a Respiratory Therapy contract agency. They told me they would test me; I had no idea if the test would include pot. I bought a bottle of "STRIP" for $40.00 at a local headshop. It said stay clean for 48 hours before the test, then drink the entire bottle two hours before the test and pee at least three times before the test. I doubled the clean time to 96 hours just to be safe. I still don't know if the test included pot or not, but I'm working for them, so I passed. You might try the stuff. The guy at the head shop said that from his experience, those who didn't pass mostly did not follow the instructions, tried to sneak in a little puff a night or two before (if you do that, you know you need help!!) Good luck, babe.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 05:57 PM
robslob. that is great....until your next unscheduled drug test.

Companies don't tell about those 'surprise' tests. I wouldn't want to have a child and a wife and 'one on the way' based on some test I took long ago to get the job.

Your house of cards could all come crashing down about you and you will become a greeter at WalMart.

Oops.....I forgot. I know nothing of what I'm talking about. Ignore me totally. My bad....

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 06:12 PM
I guess you have worked for my employer..........wait, you don't even know who it is, and I have two of them. Neither give random tests.........tests are given pre-employment only. And BTW, if I tested positive, I would not end up a greeter at Walmart, I would not even get probation with the State of Calif for first offense. Which means I could simply go to work somewhere else. And sorry about your paranoia.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 06:20 PM
TanDan, if I may ask, what is your profession?

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 06:20 PM
I'm guessing the intrigue and sneaking around is half the fun?
 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 06:20 PM
I wasn't talking about you at WalMart...My double bad...You are a RT. Salute! (serious)

There is this little thing know as "Homeland Security"; seems they want to re-evaluate people's lifestyle. Nothing is safe anymore.

 

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"I'm guessing the intrigue and sneaking around is half the fun?"

Get back in your rocking chair, Grandpa, and pop open your pack of Marlboros and six pack of Bud. Hell, you didn't need any intrigue or sneaking around to get those, now did you? The Feds say it's OK to get 'em at your corner liquor store.

 

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"I'm guessing the intrigue and sneaking around is half the fun?"

Get back in your rocking chair, Grandpa, and pop open your pack of Marlboros and six pack of Bud. Hell, you didn't need any intrigue or sneaking around to get those, now did you? The Feds say it's OK to get 'em at your corner liquor store.


Hey douchebag, I don't smoke or drink.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 07:33 PM
This topic is always pretty funny when folks take it the wrong way.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 07:33 PM
Just tell your parents you lost track of her because you were stoned-they'll understand

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 07:51 PM
Hey Allyson, good luck figuring out which choice is best. I faced the same sort of thing about a year ago. I decided not to go after the job and went after another one. I'm not sure what I will do if the situation arises again. I do know someone who I work with at a restaurant I work at who says she will be using someone else's usrine to pass. Seems a bit risky.

Since Allyson is my friend, I took special offense from you, Mr. TanDan, because you came across like a complete holier-than-thou horses ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't speak for anyone but myself. She didn't ask you, or anyone, for your opinion on the subject. She simply asked for advice/info. No need to attack her. Go vent your anger somewhere else.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 08:00 PM
I'll just take responsibility for my own actions. It's my life.

[Edited on 10/1/2005 by Denza]

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 08:07 PM
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Mule songs are full of anti-drug messages.



and some go the other way.

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 08:17 PM
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Hey Allyson, good luck figuring out which choice is best. I faced the same sort of thing about a year ago. I decided not to go after the job and went after another one. I'm not sure what I will do if the situation arises again. I do know someone who I work with at a restaurant I work at who says she will be using someone else's usrine to pass. Seems a bit risky.

Since Allyson is my friend, I took special offense from you, Mr. TanDan, because you came across like a complete holier-than-thou horses ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't speak for anyone but myself. She didn't ask you, or anyone, for your opinion on the subject. She simply asked for advice/info. No need to attack her. Go vent your anger somewhere else.




So if she's asking for advice, which is technically in a nutshell, someones opinion about it... than why is Dan excluded from doing that?

She's a big girl. I think she can take care of her own responsibilities.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 08:18 PM
Allyson,I got some stuff from the GNC store a couple of years ago that I used to pass a reefer test,I can't remember the name of it,it came in I believe a 16 ounce plastic bottle,about 2 hours before the test you drink the contents then fill the bottle twice with water & consume.Worked for me \

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I do know someone who I work with at a restaurant I work at who says she will be using someone else's usrine to pass. Seems a bit risky.


Doean't the urine have to be the right temperature?Piss warm & all that.....

 

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Hey Allyson, good luck figuring out which choice is best. I faced the same sort of thing about a year ago. I decided not to go after the job and went after another one. I'm not sure what I will do if the situation arises again. I do know someone who I work with at a restaurant I work at who says she will be using someone else's usrine to pass. Seems a bit risky.

Since Allyson is my friend, I took special offense from you, Mr. TanDan, because you came across like a complete holier-than-thou horses ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't speak for anyone but myself. She didn't ask you, or anyone, for your opinion on the subject. She simply asked for advice/info. No need to attack her. Go vent your anger somewhere else.




So if she's asking for advice, which is technically in a nutshell, someones opinion about it... than why is Dan excluded from doing that?

She's a big girl. I think she can take care of her own responsibilities.


I think she was just asking for info about drug testing & how to pass the test though Mike,not about the morality or legality of getting high....

 

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I think she was just asking for info about drug testing & how to pass the test though Mike,not about the morality or legality of getting high....


Oh, ok then to answer that question, the best way to be sure you can pass a drug test on any given day, is to not do drugs. I hope that was clear and non-judgemental.

[Edited on 10/1/2005 by BodineFan]

 

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I think she was just asking for info about drug testing & how to pass the test though Mike,not about the morality or legality of getting high....


Oh, ok then to answer that question, the best way to be sure you can pass a drug test on any given day, is to not do drugs. I hope that was clear and non-judgemental.

[Edited on 10/1/2005 by BodineFan]


better than calling folks names like "douchebag "

 

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I think she was just asking for info about drug testing & how to pass the test though Mike,not about the morality or legality of getting high....


Oh, ok then to answer that question, the best way to be sure you can pass a drug test on any given day, is to not do drugs. I hope that was clear and non-judgemental.

[Edited on 10/1/2005 by BodineFan]


Completely clear and non-judgemental.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 08:41 PM
OldSchool - I asked the same question, about temp. She said it would be taped to her thigh (yum) and would stay warm enough - I would tend to agree. I think if I were taped to her thigh, I'd be nice and happy also.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 09:31 PM
note to self......no more pot smokin' around Dan...YIKES!!!!
 

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Hey douchebag, I don't smoke or drink.
First of all! REAL nice way to speak to someone (CAN't YOU JUST FEEL THE LOVE?!!! ) Second. I wonder how many of the chest/bible thumping anti cannabis sativa non "drug" users can HONESTLY make this statement. HONESTLY!!!!

 

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Hey douchebag, I don't smoke or drink.
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First of all! REAL nice way to speak to someone (CAN't YOU JUST FEEL THE LOVE?!!! ) Second. I wonder how many of the chest/bible thumping anti cannabis sativa non "drug" users can HONESTLY make this statement. HONESTLY!!!!

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