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  posted on 9/29/2005 at 09:18 PM
"Since this is an ABB forum perhaps she could ask Gregg. He may say 'STOP!' "

Or he could say what he said in a recent interview, which is that he enjoys an occasional smoke to wind down after a show, but it has to be the "one-hit wonder weed."

"If Derek tells you to stop"

...then he probably wouldn't have done that High Times interview where he said "All my heroes have been smokers, from Louis Armstrong on down."

At the risk of pointing out the blatantly obvious, just because somebody uses drugs in their spare time doesn't mean they will be using them when they're on the clock, TanDan. If Daisymae is working as a creative person in advertising, the worst thing that could happen if she's still got some weed in her system is that she writes a crappy jingle. I don't think the world will fall off its axis.

As for whether herb is a drug, I always defer to my man Carlos Santana: "Man makes drugs, God makes medicine."

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  posted on 9/29/2005 at 09:21 PM
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Drugs suck.


Agreed.


weed ain't a drug


Sorry, but yes it is.


Caffeine, Nicotine, THC all are drugs. Weed is a schedule 1 controlled substance. Just cause the "man" says it's wrong, don't mean it ain't right.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2005 at 11:05 PM
If you smoke regularly it can take 30 to 40 days for you system to get clean.
Marijuana is fat soluable and metabolites are stored in your fatty tissue.

If you only smoke once in a while, 4-5 days is enough time to clear your system

I posted a whole chart about all drug cleansing times if ya wanna search for it.


Those that say "drugs are bad," How many of you don't do
caffiene, nicotine, alcohol, chocolate or sugar?

All legal drugs. All have heath risks

If you don't smoke herb (vaporize or ingest) the health risks are very low.

moderation in all things

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 05:49 AM
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As for whether herb is a drug, I always defer to my man Carlos Santana: "Man makes drugs, God makes medicine."

JAH RASTARARI!


That's just the drugs talking.

Aparently marijuana use causes paranoia, especially if you have a drug test coming up.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 06:19 AM
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Ally....if your job requires a urine test then you will not get the job.

The companies that do the tests are very well versed in the ways the folks use to 'trick them'. You will hear of 'virgin urine' and additives that you can you, etc. etc. Everyone will have a story about how 'It works 100%, Dude!!'. Don't believe it.

When you decide to grow up and join the adult world and apply for a job that requires a clean piss; then do it. Otherwise this may not be the correct forum for you to turn to.

Can I come to your house and perform ACLS on your loved one, being stoned? Should the surgeon operating on your father be high as he cuts into your fathers chest? Can I drive the school bus with 46 innocents as I think I can make that sharp curve? How about giving morphine to you? Is it 2mg or 10mg? Wow! Such Colors!!

You have already crossed one benchmark---the fact you even asked the question.

Don't ask or require one part of society to be 100% clean while you allow another to be stoned and drive my child to daycare.

Your call. Don't ask us!

Ask it of your babysitter next time.



[Edited on 9/29/2005 by TanDan]


Well said TD

 

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I use to smoke pot everyday but I had to quit 13 years ago for the job I have now. I miss it. I think it's a shame a man can't go home after work sit down and smoke a J to relax. Instead people have a few drinks and are a time bomb behind the wheel of a car. I would rather be stoned than drunk anyday. If a person can drink responsible they should be able to smoke that way also.
 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 06:25 AM
I'm wondering do they even look for weed when they're doing the test? Aren't some of these tests just for 'harder' drugs? Since your job would be as an artist of sorts, would they even care if the tests showed you smoked some weed? Some pot smokers feel it 'stimulates creativity' maybe ad execs do to? Also would they even check for pain killers? Can't they be explained away by the person as having a possible legit reason for taking them? Even if they discover the weed they could just ask you about it, see if you'll be honest about doing it, and hire you because they like you for the job anyway. I'm more anti-drug than most, but for an advertising position, I see this as more of an invasion of privacy as far as the weed goes. I can understand testing for cocaine or heroin for any job, but in your position should weed even be an issue?

 

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What's more dangerous pot or alcohol? Drinking is legal? The laws don't make sense.
 

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all the other methods may work, but not 100%


Store bought clean urine will pass urinalysis 100% of the time



unless you get caught with it.

 

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I'm wondering do they even look for weed when they're doing the test? Aren't some of these tests just for 'harder' drugs? Since your job would be as an artist of sorts, would they even care if the tests showed you smoked some weed? Some pot smokers feel it 'stimulates creativity' maybe ad execs do to? Also would they even check for pain killers? Can't they be explained away by the person as having a possible legit reason for taking them? Even if they discover the weed they could just ask you about it, see if you'll be honest about doing it, and hire you because they like you for the job anyway. I'm more anti-drug than most, but for an advertising position, I see this as more of an invasion of privacy as far as the weed goes. I can understand testing for cocaine or heroin for any job, but in your position should weed even be an issue?


cocaine and heroin are harder to test for since they leave the system faster. Most pills or things like that can be explained, but elevated levels of marijuana are hard to explain...the old "secondhand smoke from a concert" doesnt work.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 07:01 AM
Hey, it's their company, and if you want to work for them it's best to play by their rules. If you don't like their rules, go work for somebody else. Which do you want more, the job or the weed?
 

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What's more dangerous pot or alcohol? Drinking is legal? The laws don't make sense.


No but the achohol industry is hugh and thery pay taxes.

 

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What's more dangerous pot or alcohol? Drinking is legal? The laws don't make sense.


No but the achohol industry is hugh and thery pay taxes.
I don't understand the "but"...

if marijuana were legal, I'm sure it would be taxed just like cigarettes and booze...

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 10:05 AM
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"Since this is an ABB forum perhaps she could ask Gregg. He would say what he said in a recent interview, which is that he enjoys an occasional smoke to wind down after a show, but it has to be the "one-hit wonder weed."

"If Derek tells you to stop"

...then he probably wouldn't have done that High Times interview where he said "All my heroes have been smokers, from Louis Armstrong on down."



In support of Rob's post, which in view of Dan's post and his supporters has become the real topic here.....

All of the musicians you idolize burn the weed! Name 1 that does not? I know 100's of professional musicians personally, do you? How can anyone possibly come on a music forum and use a collective "we" when referring to fans of those same musicians? Seems moronic to me. If your distaste for Ally or anyone else that enjoys the benefits of weed are so strong, then you may want to stop posting here and start posting on the Christian Rock Forum, oh that's right, God does not say not to smoke weed so they probably do as well. Weed is legal in Holland, Denmark and now all of Canada. Amazing how Dan and his followers are so well informed and base thier opinions on reality?

Stop being idiots and telling others how to live.

Good luck Ally

 

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What's more dangerous pot or alcohol? Drinking is legal? The laws don't make sense.


No but the achohol industry is hugh and thery pay taxes.


And use their profits to fund anti-drug misinformation and anti-drug politicians

They don't want the competition.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 10:41 AM
worked for me

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 10:43 AM
If my company started drug testing I would have to give up my job. Half the company would quit. I feel for you Ally. Tough choice to make. People shouldn't tell you what to do. In the end it's your decision.
 

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After fighting it for more than a year, my company announced random drug screening effective January 1. We are part of a larger DJIA company that has had drug screening in place for many years. Our industry is part of the enterainment industry and many of our clients like to enjoy the herb. My sales force is pretty uneasy today. I think we are all going to have to invest in pee-in-a-bottle!
 

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If my company started drug testing I would have to give up my job. Half the company would quit. I feel for you Ally. Tough choice to make. People shouldn't tell you what to do. In the end it's your decision.


Heh. There'd no longer be such a thing as a pizza delivery guy.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 04:02 PM
Amazing how Dan and his followers are so well informed and base thier opinions on reality?

Stop being idiots and telling others how to live.

Good luck Ally

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So that is the best you have for Ally? 'Good Luck'?

It is a sad world that we live in...

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For the record, I have no 'followers'. Each opinion voiced here is hopefully from the heart, even yours. Not everyone who tells you what you want to know is 'A Friend' and not everyone that tells you what you do not want to know is 'An Enemy'. Sometimes experience will open the curtain between you and I and I will peek in and say something. Who am I? No one in particular. Who are you? Someone asking a question.

Rob and I are friends and I understand his post. He knows that I have hundreds of Google.com posts that have every member of the ABB in interviews that are againist drug usage. Otiel could write a book.

I just heard a cry in the dark and decided to answer it. Am I a straight-party-pooper-square-anti-drug-pig? Nope.

The first time I met Warren and Matt after a Mule show I stuck out my hand and said only one thing. And it wasn't for an autograph...I said "I'm sorry you lost your friend". I could see on both of their faces surprise and I felt the extra squeeze of my hand. I truly miss Woody everyday and I know that the Mule does also. Mule songs are full of anti-drug messages.

'opinions on reality'....yes I do have that. I took the spoon out of a new mothers hand that was intent on taking out her newborn's eyeballs. She told me that the eyes were fake and that 'Satan was behind them'. The heat was on in the house and all windows had been covered in plastic. It was August. The sweating baby was staring.sweating, in pain, and wanting help. I gave it.

That's what I thought I was doing when I posted...giving help. I care little about your twisting of words.

Why did I mention Chet Baker? Look him up on the PC. Woody and Chet Baker....Doing drugs....robs the world of nothing...mind your own business....Idiots.....Good Luck...

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Sail on savior
I can't take no more of your insanity wisdom
Satisfy your angels
With your cocaine and your guns
As for me I don't need them

When my shadow comes alive
And wrestles with my soul
Oh, do you really want to know

Savior, you can be what you want to be
Oh yeah, and only see what you want to see
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Is your greatest strength
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Guess it always was your hallelujah
Guess it was your saving grace

Savior, you can be what you want to be
Oh yeah, and only see what you want to see
Sail on, can't let you get next to me

You can say what you want now
My eyes are open wide
How was I ever on your side

Savior, you can be what you want to be
Oh yeah, and only see what you want to see
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[Edited on 9/30/2005 by TanDan]

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 04:21 PM
TanDan, I would respectfully submit the reason you have all those quotes from the Allman Brothers against "drug usage" is that they consider it patently obvious that smoking weed isn't the same thing as cocaine, heroin, or crystal meth. The quote I mentioned from Gregg was in an interview about a month ago, and it clearly indicates that he still smokes occasionally, right now in the present tense.

Nobody in the history of the world has died from a pot overdose.

Nobody has ever tried to scoop their baby's eyeballs out after smoking weed.

I think you know this perfectly well, and it is intellectually dishonest to mention those kinds of things in a discussion about marijuana usage. Woody didn't die from smoking pot.

You have obviously seen, firsthand I should add, some of the worst possible results from the usage of man-made chemicals. However, it is inaccurate to conflate that with smoking something that is demonstrably less harmful than tobacco, which is perfectly legal. For that matter, as Sir Paul McCartney once said in a radio interview, "I've smoked pot and I've drank whiskey, and I know which one is worse for you."

 
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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 04:21 PM
Thanks everyone for all the comments, opinions and advise...continue to talk amongst yourselves...I need to go pee now...

Enjoy the day!!

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 04:29 PM
TanDan, I certainly respect your opinons as well as the opinions of others here.

Personally, I think there is a clear difference in pot as compared to cocaine or heroin. Same as hydrocodone is quite different than morphine, aspirin is different from ibuprofen, and a triple espresso is different than an iced tea.

Alcohol kills more people and causes more damage than all of the "street drugs" combined.

You directed folks to Google Chet Baker. I did. It appears that he was done in by years of heroin abuse. Not quite the same as smoking a joint to unwind every once in a while.

I too have personally know people who have lost their fight to both drugs and alcohol. I still, however, refrain from judging those who make their own choices about the things they do in their lives. Your life is framed by the choices you make, and those choices are ultimately your responsibility, and yours alone.

As far as the ABB being "anti-drug," well, wow. I haven't listed to the ABB for 25 years and attended 29 shows for moral guidance from the band. I don't expect that from anyone, least of all musicians. Especially ones that have a mushroom for a logo.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 04:46 PM
I wish they'd just legalize, regulate, and tax marijuana and be done with it.

 

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TanDan, I would respectfully submit the reason you have all those quotes from the Allman Brothers against "drug usage" is that they consider it patently obvious that smoking weed isn't the same thing as cocaine, heroin, or crystal meth. The quote I mentioned from Gregg was in an interview about a month ago, and it clearly indicates that he still smokes occasionally, right now in the present tense.

Nobody in the history of the world has died from a pot overdose.

Nobody has ever tried to scoop their baby's eyeballs out after smoking weed.





While I do not drink alcohol or use marijuana or any drugs, to be perfectly honest if I had to choose to be around a person that was stoned or drunk, I would choose the stoner. That however does not change the fact that smoking weed while on the clock or operating machinery is a bad idea and dangerous. I have been disapointed many times by pot smokers, but unlike drunks, I never had to kick their ass.

I just wish everyone could enjoy life straight instead of needing to have a buzz in their head all the time. What is that you are all suffering from that you need to check out like that, I don't get it.

 
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