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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 07:32 PM
I believe maybe this has already been covered here so forgive me...but could someone in the know give me a quick take on the New Beatles Remastered package(s) - it seems one is remastered....and one is 'mono' but maybe not remastered? THANK YOU in advance.

And, by 'take' I mean please explain what I'm 'getting' vs. the individual discs I already own. Again, thank you.


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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 07:56 PM
Layton, they've both been remastered. The way it was explained to me is that the Mono mixes were done by George Martin to recreate the music the way he and the Beatles heard it back when they actually recorded it. The Mono records go up until either MMT or the White Album, can't remember which was the first record that they originally recorded in stereo....all the records after that were in stereo and aren't included in the Mono box, so you don't get Abbey Road, Get Back, Hey Jude, etc. which is why I'm buying the stereo box...also the Mono boxes are Limited Editions and I can't afford both so I'm going with the most bang for my buck.

P.S. The original LPs up to MMT or TWA were all recorded in mono and later reprocessed in stereo. Back in the day when they did this sometimes reprocessed records sounded like sh!t (not the Beatles, INMHO).

 

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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 07:58 PM
I have the individual stereo re-masters & they are incredible...Many posts about them on here...I bet if you do a search above you'll find a few..

 

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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 08:56 PM
The Mono boxset is comprised of the original mixes by Martin in which the Beatles were involved in deciding how the final product would sound. For audiophiles, this set is the way to go because it's the purest sound available, even compared to the stereo box set which has some...very, very, little...but some compression, where as the Mono has virtually none.
The Stereo mixes were done without the Beatles input in most cases, and while they are the mixes I am most familiar with, I have fallen in love with the Mono box set. Before hearing this, I used to think mono was for when you blew a speaker...an outdated form of listening. However, after hearing this set, and Hendrix's Are You Experience in mono...I've changed my opinion.

The Beatles in mono sounds like they're in the room with you, while the stereo versions don't. There's a certain raw energy in the mono that isn't there in stereo..it's almost like the extra step of mixing them for different speakers places another layer between you and the band.

I recommend everyone who's a fan check out the mono stuff if they can...listen to it, then maybe you'll wanna buy it. On a decent component stereo system, the mono sounds intense but more natural....the White Album and Sgt Pepper's are a great place to start the comparison.....you might like some better in mono, some in stereo.

The way I see it, the mono is limited so why not grab that....you'll always be able to grab the stereo releases.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 09:27 PM
I've heard most of the mono and all of the stereo. For me, personally, at least on the sound system I was listening to, the mono is clearly better for the 1st 3 albums. After that, I prefer the stereo (but they're both great). The seperation may be a bit exaggerated on the stereo, no where near the original stereo LPs, though. I was able to pick out the original components (ie acoustic guitar, bass, drums) better. The mono does have more energy - especially the early ones.

Apparently, the 1st 2 albums were recorded on 2 track tape - they started using 4 track with I Want to Hold Your Hand and the Hard Day's Night album. That may, at least partially, explain the difference. There are also some very audible differences in a few tracks - for instance John's vocals in If I Fell and Tell Me Why are single track in mono but double track in stereo.
The mono Help also comes with the original stereo mix (1965).

You can't go wrong either way.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 09:32 PM
Agreed, they've both very well mastered, as opposed to some of the sonic messes that have been pawned off in the last ten years.

The White Album mono mixes offer an insight into what parts of the music they wanted emphasized....that's worth hearing at least once, imo, and Sgt Pepper's is the same story.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2009 at 09:48 PM
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Apparently, the 1st 2 albums were recorded on 2 track tape - they started using 4 track with I Want to Hold Your Hand and the Hard Day's Night album. That may, at least partially, explain the difference.


Excellent info. That is really interesting.

Amazing how much crap comes out today with 64 tracks or whatever multi-tracks are now...just goes to show that real genius isn't in the technology. It's in the artist.

I highly recommend also the Phil Spector box Back To Mono. Psychosis aside, he was an absolute genius and he could make two tracks (or 4, I don't know) sound like nothing anybody had ever recorded before....to me nobody has ever been able to recreate "The Wall of Sound."

And neither will he, since he'll probably die in prison.

Classic Greek Tragedy.

 

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  posted on 10/29/2009 at 09:23 AM
THANKS for all of the info, fellas! I appreciate it.
 
 


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