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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 01:45 PM
Every now and then someone will comment on how so-and-so inserted a tease for some song in a solo.

I still don't understand what's so special about this. Musicians have been doing this for decades. For example, Wynton Marsalis pointed out (in criticizing know-it-alls who tried to analyze recorded solos) that Charlie Parker could easily have added a couple of lines from a nautical song because a sailor walked into the bar where he was playing. It was seizing the moment, nothing more.

If anything I'd be annoyed if a musician tweaked me with a favorite song, then snatched it away and didn't finish it.

Am I alone in my view?

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 01:47 PM
I think two things

1. It is a way to draw the audiences attention back to the song. (i.e. during a long Mountain Jam Warren or Derek will throw a Blue Sky tease in )

2. Fun little game by the musicians to see if we notice or not

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 01:57 PM
I like them, but wish sometimes they would just jump into the song.

Tommy Bolin's
Teaser is a good one................

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:05 PM
I love 'em ! For instance, one of my favorites bands (Rollin' in the Hay) plays a great, extended version of "Ride Me High." After I got to know the guys well, whenever I'd turn up for a show they'd throw an "Aqualung" tease in there knowing that I am a huge Tull fan. It set me off ! Also it goes back to the othr posts of "getting our attention" and "fun & games" which I think it is. And hey, they're jammin' and trying to keep it interesting for themselves too.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:11 PM
I enjoy those teases- I see them as a playful musical expression- sort of like smiling with music. Hearing Warren play Norwegian wood in the middle of Mountain jam sure brings a smile to my face.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:16 PM
I like them for all the reasons listed above. I think it's really cool when two songs can be successfully intergrated - more than a tease, like When Doves Cry/Beautifully Broken. I really can't think of any other examples of this.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:18 PM
I don't know if Warren was doing it before Phil & Friends, but once in P & F (and beyond) you could play a guessing game for when you were getting the Eleanor Rigby tease.
 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:21 PM
Derek throws in a My Favorite Things tease in the middle of Whipping Post.
I have heard that a few times, always enjoyable to hear!

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:47 PM
I love hearing them, although I am in the habit of calling them "quotes". I think they are very very cool.

When I hear one I equate it to when you happen to see a shooting star. It happens so quick, and you kinda wonder..."wow, I wonder who else saw it??"

Same with the "quote".

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:49 PM
Rocking Horse don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.

To answer the thread question, most of the time I enjoy the teases, and most of the time I wish they became jams on the theme.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:51 PM
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Derek throws in a My Favorite Things tease in the middle of Whipping Post.
I have heard that a few times, always enjoyable to hear!


1:24 into the solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuadh1o0yC8

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:52 PM
agreed on the "keeps it interesting for the band and the audience". it's great to hear those things pop out. it's even better when the band segues >> into another song completely. gameface > mtn.jam > gameface is another mule example of this btw.

it brings up another topic for ABB, why do they not do more segues?? they always finish the tunes in a nice flourish, but there is usually a full stop between songs it seems. and even if the music doesn't actually stop, it's more of a flip (DWYNM > NMCTB) than any sort of meandering jam into another song. don't take this the wrong way, it's only a guess, but maybe it harkens back to the days of ironfisted setlists / song positions due to an inebriated inability to truly jam in the moment and keep up with where the song and band is going in unchartered waters?

WSP are the Transition Magicians. They can really go from one song into a jam and then pop out the other side into another song completely, and without much endless noodling to get there. sometimes you can hear a drumbeat or the Lingering Lead's guitar from the next song 1-2 minutes before the rest of the band gets there. gotta love it. We miss you Mikey!!!!!!

as for the ABB, y'all keep on keepin on, we're still thankful you are playing, and now taking chances again. YDLM > WP > MTN.JAM!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:54 PM
Original ABB would tease "Will the Circle Be Unbroken?" all the time.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:58 PM
I've got a boot of a "Dead" concert...the tour where Warren and Jimmy Herring were playing with them...and during a GD song Warren briefly quoted either Jessica or Liz Reed I believe. Maybe Mountain Jam, I cant remember for sure.

But I took as Warren saying "howdy!" to all the ABB fans who might have been there.

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 02:59 PM
i like it when certain bands do it & some not
 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 03:13 PM
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Derek throws in a My Favorite Things tease in the middle of Whipping Post.
I have heard that a few times, always enjoyable to hear!


1:24 into the solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuadh1o0yC8


That's exactly what I was thinking of too.

This solo is one of the best I've ever heard

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 03:17 PM
"For example, Wynton Marsalis pointed out (in criticizing know-it-alls who tried to analyze recorded solos)"

I can't resist pointing out that Miles Davis considered Wynton Marsalis to be a know-it-all.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 03:24 PM
Oh, and I love "teases" especially when they become full on band jams, like the DTB 11/18/07 going from "Sailing On" to "Who Knows"

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 03:35 PM
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WSP are the Transition Magicians. They can really go from one song into a jam and then pop out the other side into another song completely, and without much endless noodling to get there. sometimes you can hear a drumbeat or the Lingering Lead's guitar from the next song 1-2 minutes before the rest of the band gets there. gotta love it. We miss you Mikey!!!!!!



WSP does it well, but there are some better transition groups out there. check out moe., most of the time they play the entire 2nd set without stopping. another good one is the disco biscuits (all thought some on this site might not really enjoy their sound).

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 03:36 PM
teases happen because the musicians are not wearing their tin foil cap and the space monkeys make
them play something else.


 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 04:01 PM
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Derek throws in a My Favorite Things tease in the middle of Whipping Post.
I have heard that a few times, always enjoyable to hear!


That specific example is another reason I like teases. When I'm playing my "elitist" music, as they call it, they get excited when they hear a tease they recognize....kinda of a nice intro to the music for them.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 04:21 PM
I've noticed Derek teasing DTB songs into ABB solos....3/30/07 - Shaib Teri Bandi during Ain't Wastin' Time No More and Volunteered Slavery into Rocking Horse on 4/3/07 (we also got the Don't Mean a Thing tease from Warren that night).

I've heard a blue sky tease during Franklins Tower before as well (Mansfield '04)

I love 'em!

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 05:04 PM
I love the teases....

It gives a nod of repect to the artist whose music they tease....

Did I say that right.....

 

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  posted on 5/21/2008 at 05:16 PM
"It was seizing the moment, nothing more."

You make it sound like seizing the moment is no big deal. To me, that kind of spontaneity is what separates the best live performers from the rest of the pack.

To me, these teases demonstrate the musical fluency of the musician. Whatever pops into their head, they have the ability to immediately translate into action.

If I was playing in a club and a sailor walked into the bar, I'd have to think to myself "Now, what it a good nautical song? What key is that in again?" The greats, like Charlie Parker, don't have to think about it, they just do it. That is the big deal.

 
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"It was seizing the moment, nothing more."

You make it sound like seizing the moment is no big deal. To me, that kind of spontaneity is what separates the best live performers from the rest of the pack.

To me, these teases demonstrate the musical fluency of the musician. Whatever pops into their head, they have the ability to immediately translate into action.

If I was playing in a club and a sailor walked into the bar, I'd have to think to myself "Now, what it a good nautical song? What key is that in again?" The greats, like Charlie Parker, don't have to think about it, they just do it. That is the big deal.



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