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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 01:47 AM
I can see why he is against downloading the Dead's music, but the way he goes about explaining himself was a shock to me, he totally slams the new online communities that download their music, and says with the constant downloading of their commercial releases and maybe even future Dick's Picks, this will not pay for his kids to go to college. I guess ideals change over the years, it's just sad when it changes for money.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 09:01 AM
CaptainTony,

If you're post something like this, be considerate enought to either post the article itself or at least provide a link to the article (just go the address line and copy and then paste that info into your comments, pretty simple thing to do) As it is, you haven't given us any way of knowing what Bob Weir actually said. Might help to go back and add the relevant link.

 
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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 09:19 AM
This doesnt suprise me in the least.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 09:38 AM
What??? Bobby didn't make enough money in the almost 40 YEARS of the GD experience?? Honestly!! Sure, they were never BIG TIME Madonna/Rolling Stones/U2 style recording artists, but they had to have made a fortune throughout the years. I find it very hard to believe that Bobby Weir is struggling to put his children through college. I mean, it's not like the Grateful Dead was like modern day pop stars, blowing all their money on "bling", "pimped out cars", and six figure parties to celebrate them being celebrities. I'm sure no small portion went to "party favors" throughout the years, but if they blew their entire fortune on drugs how are ANY of them still alive today??

I guess I should just read the ariticle before I make any snap judgments. I would love to see someone do a financial analysis on this whole downloading music thing. Just how much are the artists losing when fans download shows/songs for free. I mean, I totally understand about an artist's rage when it comes to downloading released material. But shows that are traded for free??? What the efff!!!

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 10:29 AM
I agree with Weir on this one.If they are downloading audience recordings I see no problem but the soundboards\commercial releases belong to the band.

And yes things do change since 67,so the Grateful Dead are a smallcorporation who have employees to pay,overhead just like any other business. Giving their product away is bad business.

Since these guys were the most generous band with their recording policy for YEARS,andmany of us enjoy shows for years,I donot see why it is so hard to understand his\their point of view

And if Weir had as many women as the legend says he may have ALOT of kids to put thru college !!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 10:43 AM
I guess its the realization that you are correct and therefore idealism has an expiration date.
 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 10:58 AM
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Since these guys were the most generous band with their recording policy for YEARS, and many of us enjoy shows for years, I do not see why it is so hard to understand his\their point of view



Amen, Neil... God Bless Bobby and The Boys. This subject has been beaten to death and I'm done commenting on it.
For the folks that don't like their policies, just boycott and don't listen if it bothers you so much - and if you want to take it a step further - why not throw away all the FREE music you have been given by them over the years. I personally will be listening, reflecting and enjoying their amazing music to the fullest, forever and always...

Peace always and Merry Christmas...

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 11:12 AM
Poor Bob, having trouble putting the kids through college...what a shame.

Of course I agree that's a great excuse to suddenly wring every nickel out of the soundboards. And of course, I should be grateful the band allowed it in the first place.

Of course, they should be grateful for the devotion me, and many, many others had for the band....but I guess in the scheme of things, the sacrifices the fans made doesn't mean much if Bob is hurting for cash. It's not like Deadheads hurt themselves financially to see the band.

Yet, the fact that the devotion was built on a two-way street shouldn't stop Bob from wanting to change things now....his financial situation is so dire he may have to sell his BMW.

Gee, I'd hate to see that.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 11:25 AM
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What??? Bobby didn't make enough money in the almost 40 YEARS of the GD experience?? Honestly!! Sure, they were never BIG TIME Madonna/Rolling Stones/U2 style recording artists, but they had to have made a fortune throughout the years.



Actually, they didn't make a lot of money....Not until the 90's at least. I fully understand both sides of the story. Weir, by my judgment, is saying that if we open dowloads to EVERYONE (trading is open to everyone, but most choose not to go to the hassle), then no Grateful Dead releases will be sold, and that is a fairly valid point.

On the other hand, the dead's policy has always been all for sharing the music, and obviously opening up the Grateful Dead live downloads is great for the Dead's fans. I would never download studio dead (and I think those who do download copyrighted music are wrong), and I have loved the freedom of opening up the archives and finding a new dead show whenever I wanted. Plus, that wouldn't stop me from getting the dick's picks, simply because the dicks picks are much higher quality than a lot of the stuff out there.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 11:28 AM
Not sure why anyone is suprised or in disbelief that the Dead were always businessmen. There seems to be some incorrect notion that these guys were freewheeling hippies who gave everything away. These guys are musicians who do this for a living. Always have.

Just watch the Festival Train interview with Bob Weir and you will see that he has felt the same since the 60s. He goes on a rampage about how people sneaking in are ripping off the band. They then go forward in time and interview him about the same subject and he says almost the exact same thing.

The Dead made tons of money off touring and merchandise. Still do to a lesser extent. Nothing wrong with that at all. It is what they do for a living. How many of us work for free? And if another person thought you were overpaid, would you agree and do it for free? It doesn't matter what people believe the band's intentions were, it has never been about giving everything away.

Great for letting people trade music but that was all part of the marketing plan. It gets more people knowing your music therefore going to the show. And as Weir said almost 40 years ago. They "sell" tickets to shows. If you don't "buy" a ticket than stay home.

As for blowing $$$ on drugs, they are not all alive. Some survived and some didn't. I am sure the drug abuse varied between members but drugs took the most important one of all.

Why people will pay the Rolling Stones $400 per ticket and then think the Dead should be free is beyond me? Did The Stones allow people to record and trade shows? Never. Did they every give away anything for free? Sure a concert that they were filming and recording which in turn made the money. If anyone believes that Weir and the rest owe you something then you should give away all of your possesions and money also. They shared already and continue to allow the trading to continue.

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 11:38 AM
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The proper response is Thank You.


Perfectly said CM....

 
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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 12:03 PM
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Not sure why anyone is suprised or in disbelief that the Dead were always businessmen. There seems to be some incorrect notion that these guys were freewheeling hippies who gave everything away. These guys are musicians who do this for a living. Always have.

Just watch the Festival Train interview with Bob Weir and you will see that he has felt the same since the 60s. He goes on a rampage about how people sneaking in are ripping off the band. They then go forward in time and interview him about the same subject and he says almost the exact same thing.

The Dead made tons of money off touring and merchandise. Still do to a lesser extent. Nothing wrong with that at all. It is what they do for a living. How many of us work for free? And if another person thought you were overpaid, would you agree and do it for free? It doesn't matter what people believe the band's intentions were, it has never been about giving everything away.

Great for letting people trade music but that was all part of the marketing plan. It gets more people knowing your music therefore going to the show. And as Weir said almost 40 years ago. They "sell" tickets to shows. If you don't "buy" a ticket than stay home.

As for blowing $$$ on drugs, they are not all alive. Some survived and some didn't. I am sure the drug abuse varied between members but drugs took the most important one of all.

Why people will pay the Rolling Stones $400 per ticket and then think the Dead should be free is beyond me? Did The Stones allow people to record and trade shows? Never. Did they every give away anything for free? Sure a concert that they were filming and recording which in turn made the money. If anyone believes that Weir and the rest owe you something then you should give away all of your possesions and money also. They shared already and continue to allow the trading to continue.

The proper response is Thank You.



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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 12:05 PM
Carlos, I can't believe for a second that the Dead wasn't raking in good money in the 70's and 80's. They were a touring tour de force!! Not to mention all of the albums/merchandise/ventures the Dead got involved with during those years. The Dead was a HUGE corporation that only within the last few years had to downsize, mostly due in part that they were no longer TOURING!!

All I'm saying is this: If they were truly businessmen, which I think they were (you have to be), then they should have protected and invested their money as they made it. If they didn't then that's their own fault. I dare anyone to show me statistics that prove the Dead WASN'T making crazy money in the 70's and 80's.

Now, back to the downloading... It was my understanding that Wier and the boys were against ALL downloading, not just the downloads from the soundboard. I can surely appreciate his concern about that. But the taper stuff is a whole other story in my opinion. Again, if you can get it free from a trader through the mail, why not via download. How does that affect sales in any way at all?? If fans truly enjoy it, then they'll surely BUY more stuff. Downloading TAPER'S TAPES is the same thing as trading via the mail. It just works a lot more quickly.

But, whatever. I have taped Dead shows but even more studio albums, live releases and Dick's Picks. I love the Dead and always will. I truly respect the property protection aspect to all of this, but the line between what's mine is mine and what's yours is yours was blurred about 40 years ago. Due to advancements in technology that never could have been contemplated in the 60's, access to "my" property has become much more available. I respect the Dead's decision to draw the line in the sand, but I love the idea of getting taped shows from a taper via on-line downloads. I don't have the time to do B&Ps anymore, it's much easier to download something with my computer.

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 12:12 PM
I see the "politically correct" answer being posted over and over and I can just shake my head.

Don't compare GD to the Stones, Zeppelin or any other band because it's apples and oranges.

Jerry and boys did it differently then everyone else, so trying to expect fans to judge them as they judge other bands is stupid, imo.

GD offered a different experience, they are held to different standards, it's that simple.


Long ago a pact was made between fans and band, to enjoy the moment. The band, aware that the moment was fleeting, offered fans a chance to take home their recordings of the band....often via releasing soundboards to collectors. This was done because Garcia was a tape trader during his bluegrass days...whether marketing entered into it is debatable. Most likely it was a side-effect of what was a hippie idealism at the time.

This "idealism" became part of the Dead's image, much like L.S.D and long-haired fans.

Just because I think Bob should remain true to the band's history, doesn't mean I should give away my possessions...what a ridiculous idea.

GD was a TOURING BAND first and foremost, all about the moment; Jerry even said when we're finished with the music, you can have it.

He didn't specify that it only be audience, and by allowing sdbds to be released to traders they set a precedent that today might be an albatross around their neck financially, but TFB. Their concert dollars were the benefit they reaped from allowing their music to be so accessible...and they reaped it for years. Always the number two concert draw of the year, behind the "flavour of the month"...Bowie's Glass Spiders, Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A., whatever the big draw of the years was, GD was number two.

So now, that part of their history is done, so Bob wants to revise the original idealism because it isn't as profitable now?

Should of thought of that years ago...but they were too busy enjoying our cash and devotion to care....so whining about it now is just childish and ungrateful.

I treated them better than any other band, and they responded the same way; mail-order tickets, sdbds released, different songs every night....we had a symbiotic relationship because Deadheads allowed the band more leeway to **** up then other bands fans did.

I'd never throw away my Grateful Dead stuff, but Bob Weir won't see me at his concerts ever again, the ungrateful cur.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 12:16 PM
Bottom line is this, is that it's up to artist to decide how they want their music handled. If they don't want you to download, they you should respect that decision. How much money anybody makes is really not relevant to the argument. I'm surprised no one here is not jumping on the ABB, they don't allow downloads, and the only way you can get a recent SB recording is to buy an "Instant Live" and no you can't make copies for a friend. I'm real sure Mr. Allman, Trucks, and Jaimoe are set up just as well financially as Mr. Weir. So why does Bob Weir get the grief about it when after all, the ABB pretty much are just as restricted in what gets released and how.
 
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So why does Bob Weir get the grief about it when after all, the ABB pretty much are just as restricted in what gets released and how.



I figured my post explained this already, but once more I'll elaborate;

Bob Weir enjoyed the years of fans following them around, keeping their concerts top box office. The reasons for the fans devotion, as explained above, vary from person to person, but GD's taping rules and trading rules were definitely high-profile and part of the whole deal.

So, the band is held up to different standards as the result. The ABB didn't do the same stuff, ergo, different yardsticks.

Seems basic to me....

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 12:44 PM
First I'm not a fan of the GD so I really have little personal interest in this.

But for those that keep keep bringing up the Box Office. They may have been the top grossing band in the 80s & 90s.But what were the net receipts? After a Who concert in 1979 I'm sure the cost of liability insurance and secrurity rose astronomically cutting into the bottom line.

As far as Bob Weir not being able to afford putting his kids through school, welcome to the real world of the working man.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 12:47 PM
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Bob Weir enjoyed the years of fans following them around, keeping their concerts top box office. The reasons for the fans devotion, as explained above, vary from person to person, but GD's taping rules and trading rules were definitely high-profile and part of the whole deal.



Excuse me, but what you're saying is that because the fans were so loyal, that the remaining members of the GD "owe them"? That's BS, they don't "owe" anybody nothing, the fact that they ALLOWED taping in the past, as no bearing on the decisions they make on downloading today. I would think you GD loyalist would be gracious enough to just say "thank you" and appreciate all that the GD have given you over the years. Instead, y'all acting like "spoiled brats", that the music belongs to you and the ones that made it shouldn't have any say so in how they want the music distributed. Bottom line, once again, respect the artist wishes and appreciate all the music and the good times that you were given.

 
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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 01:19 PM
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I see the "politically correct" answer being posted over and over and I can just shake my head.

Don't compare GD to the Stones, Zeppelin or any other band because it's apples and oranges.

Jerry and boys did it differently then everyone else, so trying to expect fans to judge them as they judge other bands is stupid, imo.

GD offered a different experience, they are held to different standards, it's that simple.


Long ago a pact was made between fans and band, to enjoy the moment. The band, aware that the moment was fleeting, offered fans a chance to take home their recordings of the band....often via releasing soundboards to collectors. This was done because Garcia was a tape trader during his bluegrass days...whether marketing entered into it is debatable. Most likely it was a side-effect of what was a hippie idealism at the time.

This "idealism" became part of the Dead's image, much like L.S.D and long-haired fans.

Just because I think Bob should remain true to the band's history, doesn't mean I should give away my possessions...what a ridiculous idea.

GD was a TOURING BAND first and foremost, all about the moment; Jerry even said when we're finished with the music, you can have it.

He didn't specify that it only be audience, and by allowing sdbds to be released to traders they set a precedent that today might be an albatross around their neck financially, but TFB. Their concert dollars were the benefit they reaped from allowing their music to be so accessible...and they reaped it for years. Always the number two concert draw of the year, behind the "flavour of the month"...Bowie's Glass Spiders, Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A., whatever the big draw of the years was, GD was number two.

So now, that part of their history is done, so Bob wants to revise the original idealism because it isn't as profitable now?

Should of thought of that years ago...but they were too busy enjoying our cash and devotion to care....so whining about it now is just childish and ungrateful.

I treated them better than any other band, and they responded the same way; mail-order tickets, sdbds released, different songs every night....we had a symbiotic relationship because Deadheads allowed the band more leeway to **** up then other bands fans did.

I'd never throw away my Grateful Dead stuff, but Bob Weir won't see me at his concerts ever again, the ungrateful cur.


The point is that the "unwritten' contract is in your head. If comparing a band that shared with a bunch of greedy bands is stupid then I am stupid. But I think those apples and oranges are in your mind. Musical bands vs musical bands. No apples or oranges there. Only someone who shared with you and the other didn't. They charged you. If you want to hold the Dead accountable because they shared with you then that is rather silly and ungrateful.

People want to believe that there was a mystical connection between the band and its fans. It is the same as any other fans following a group. Are Beatles fans less dedicated? Any connection between a band and their fans is the same. You just liked the Dead more.

Hate to tell you this but they are musicians who want to make money. It has always been the same. They didn't hitchhike to the next show. They didn't eat rice just to get by. They made lots of money and enjoyed what that money could buy. They didn't walk around sharing their drugs, property and funds. If you want to believe it then so be it but it isn't true.

You went to a show and paid just like any other concert. You believe that there was some other link and that the band openly admitted that. When did they do this. As early as the 60s, Weir and the Dead were telling freeloaders without a ticket to stay home. Either pay or get out. That doesn't seem to describe that link or bond.

Maybe you are mad that you gave them your money or feel that they owe you more. Why? Forty years of sharing wasn't enough? Obviously not.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 01:23 PM
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So why does Bob Weir get the grief about it when after all, the ABB pretty much are just as restricted in what gets released and how.



I figured my post explained this already, but once more I'll elaborate;

Bob Weir enjoyed the years of fans following them around, keeping their concerts top box office. The reasons for the fans devotion, as explained above, vary from person to person, but GD's taping rules and trading rules were definitely high-profile and part of the whole deal.

So, the band is held up to different standards as the result. The ABB didn't do the same stuff, ergo, different yardsticks.

Seems basic to me....




It is basic. Fans buy albums and see shows. Every band and fanbase is the same. You want to condemn the band that shared. Remember that. They shared and continue to do so and for all those years of sharing whatdo they get? Absolutely nothing. They are ridiculed by the "fans" that they gave to. Pretty messed up logic to me.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 01:27 PM
Hold on brothers and sisters.

Nobody, at least not I, is claiming that the Dead should open up their shows for free, give away their t shirts, or come let me live in their homes. Nobody is claiming they should not be filthy rich, buy BMWs, live in nice houses or be properly compensated for their work. More power to them. Any talk of socialistic seizures or boycotts is too inane to warrant a mature response. Finally, nobody should be comparing them to the ABB or the Stones because they are quite simply not the ABB or the Stones.

Speaking for myself, one of the many things I like about the Dead is their taping policy. It is a covenant between band and fans; one of the last vestiges of an honor system, so to speak. It is something very special and yes, very generous. It was an ideal of such stature that many bands imitated it in one form or another.

Now do the Dead have the right to alter that very covenant? Sure. They have the right to do whatever the hell they want to do. But with that comes a certain sadness that one of their unique aspects was summarily altered without so much as a courtesy announcement to their fans.

And I understand if they need the money. But once again its just a bit sad that the Dead have nothing left of capitalize on, save for something they previously gave away.

Finally, with all the back pedaling and contradictory statements from the band members, it is disappointing to see that the surviving members are no longer a truly cohesive unit. Maybe they never really were.

So thatís all it is with me. Sadness that reality triumphs over idealism. Like most of us, I can afford to eventually purchase the entire Dead repertoire, so its not about dollars and cents. But now it is with the Dead, and I simply cannot help feeling a bit sad about that. I feel sad that the Grateful Dead is truly no more. Yes, it took 10 years to realize the obvious.

If others do not see it that way, that is certainly cool. The image we all have of the Dead differs greatly from person to person. So sure, the Dead have every right to do as they please and I will continue to buy their stuff and see RatDog, etc. But I will simply never quite view them the same again. But that's just me and I doubt the Dead are going to lose much sleep over my humble opinion.

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The point is that the "unwritten' contract is in your head.


No, it was in many, many heads, and inspired a devotion that no other band's fans has ever approached never mind surpassed.

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If comparing a band that shared with a bunch of greedy bands is stupid then I am stupid.


Agreed.

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If you want to hold the Dead accountable because they shared with you then that is rather silly and ungrateful.


You just don't get it. They became the biggest touring band of all time because of the fans devotion...they got LOTS back for opening their vaults to trading.


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They didn't walk around sharing their drugs, property and funds. If you want to believe it then so be it but it isn't true.




You know very little about the beginnings of Grateful Dead. Google Diggers and San Francisco...read about the Dead organization and how the band eschewed the Monterey Pop movie as an L.A. scene cash grab. They didn't support commercialism...Airplane sold out long before Grateful Dead got signed because Jerry and boys weren't interested in selling out. That endured them to their fans. They embraced their fans, and received what every band dreams of..unlimited freedom to pursue their craft while being supported financially by rabid fans who buy everything and anything with their name on it.

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They shared and continue to do so and for all those years of sharing whatdo they get? Absolutely nothing.


You have to be completely blind to think they got nothing for all their years of sharing...they are the top grossing tour band of all time. They were rewarded with a devotion unheard of anywhere, a devotion that got them LOTS of free press, that filled their concerts EVEN WHEN Garcia wasn't performing up to par....which in the last 3 years of his life was regularly.

You don't know much about the band's history CM, if you can post that crap and mean it.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 01:50 PM
KnownRider's and CanadianMule's posts from this morning pretty much sum it up for me.
The only thing I think is too bad is Bobby supposedly saying the free downloads render him unable to put his kids through college -- come on. I think he needs to wipe a bit of egg off his face with that one. Bobby, Phil and Bill DEFINITELY could retire tomorrow COMFORTABLY if they wished.
But --- these guys are creative artists & among the best musicians on the planet, and they don't WISH to retire -- which is a testament to how good and vital they still are, and which also is just fine with their fans. The bottom line is, "it's the realization that you are correct and idealism has an expiration date." Bobby I'm sure isn't worried about his ability to put his kids through college, he just wants the right thing to be done -- as was posted before, he is a businessman as well as a musician, and no one likes seeing their hard-earned money go out the window ALL the time, even if there is more than enough of it to go around.
Just my .02 -- interesting thoughts indeed on this thread.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2005 at 01:50 PM
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Not sure why anyone is suprised or in disbelief that the Dead were always businessmen. There seems to be some incorrect notion that these guys were freewheeling hippies who gave everything away. These guys are musicians who do this for a living. Always have.

Just watch the Festival Train interview with Bob Weir and you will see that he has felt the same since the 60s. He goes on a rampage about how people sneaking in are ripping off the band. They then go forward in time and interview him about the same subject and he says almost the exact same thing.

The Dead made tons of money off touring and merchandise. Still do to a lesser extent. Nothing wrong with that at all. It is what they do for a living. How many of us work for free? And if another person thought you were overpaid, would you agree and do it for free? It doesn't matter what people believe the band's intentions were, it has never been about giving everything away.

Great for letting people trade music but that was all part of the marketing plan. It gets more people knowing your music therefore going to the show. And as Weir said almost 40 years ago. They "sell" tickets to shows. If you don't "buy" a ticket than stay home.

As for blowing $$$ on drugs, they are not all alive. Some survived and some didn't. I am sure the drug abuse varied between members but drugs took the most important one of all.

Why people will pay the Rolling Stones $400 per ticket and then think the Dead should be free is beyond me? Did The Stones allow people to record and trade shows? Never. Did they every give away anything for free? Sure a concert that they were filming and recording which in turn made the money. If anyone believes that Weir and the rest owe you something then you should give away all of your possesions and money also. They shared already and continue to allow the trading to continue.

The proper response is Thank You.



amen...i am really getting tired of people that bitch about a musicians right to get paid...to all of those folks...DO YOU WORK FOR FREE ?

 

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Not sure why anyone is suprised or in disbelief that the Dead were always businessmen. There seems to be some incorrect notion that these guys were freewheeling hippies who gave everything away. These guys are musicians who do this for a living. Always have.

Just watch the Festival Train interview with Bob Weir and you will see that he has felt the same since the 60s. He goes on a rampage about how people sneaking in are ripping off the band. They then go forward in time and interview him about the same subject and he says almost the exact same thing.

The Dead made tons of money off touring and merchandise. Still do to a lesser extent. Nothing wrong with that at all. It is what they do for a living. How many of us work for free? And if another person thought you were overpaid, would you agree and do it for free? It doesn't matter what people believe the band's intentions were, it has never been about giving everything away.

Great for letting people trade music but that was all part of the marketing plan. It gets more people knowing your music therefore going to the show. And as Weir said almost 40 years ago. They "sell" tickets to shows. If you don't "buy" a ticket than stay home.

As for blowing $$$ on drugs, they are not all alive. Some survived and some didn't. I am sure the drug abuse varied between members but drugs took the most important one of all.

Why people will pay the Rolling Stones $400 per ticket and then think the Dead should be free is beyond me? Did The Stones allow people to record and trade shows? Never. Did they every give away anything for free? Sure a concert that they were filming and recording which in turn made the money. If anyone believes that Weir and the rest owe you something then you should give away all of your possesions and money also. They shared already and continue to allow the trading to continue.

The proper response is Thank You.



amen...i am really getting tired of people that bitch about a musicians right to get paid...to all of those folks...DO YOU WORK FOR FREE ?


Right now I feel like it as I'm waiting for checks for pictures. One from a fairly well known session musician.

 

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