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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 10:19 PM
I'm a lurker, usually just checking the ABB setlists.

But after reading the thread about how to circumvent a drug test I had to respond.

Drug use by teenagers can usually be chalked up to naivete, curiosity, or peer pressure.
But if you're over 20 and still smoking weed your stuck on stupid. Period.


I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use. I even read on another thread where a guy said he had given some pot to a recovering coccaine addict at the Wanne fest.

How absolutely thoughtless, wreckless, shameful, and unloving. I hope he realizes he may well have set her back on the road to addiction. I'm sure her family appreciates that !

Companies administer those drug tests for a reason.

 
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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 10:24 PM
couldn't you have just responded in the thread that prompted you to respond??
 

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  posted on 9/30/2005 at 11:02 PM
Hey Mike

 

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  posted on 10/1/2005 at 12:44 PM
SOS I've been hearing that alot lately, when that phrase enter the lexicon.




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  posted on 10/2/2005 at 10:55 AM
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I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use.


It's not just this board, it's society.

Alcohol, tobacoo and caffiene are all drugs too, and they're abused daily, even by kids.

Sugar is terrible for the body, yet it's in EVERYTHING these days, in huge quantities...where's the outrage about that?

 

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  posted on 10/2/2005 at 12:29 PM
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I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use.


It's not just this board, it's society.

Alcohol, tobacoo and caffiene are all drugs too, and they're abused daily, even by kids.

Sugar is terrible for the body, yet it's in EVERYTHING these days, in huge quantities...where's the outrage about that?




If you want to maintain your credibility better rethink the caffeine and sugar portion of your statement. I'm not aware of any children in foster care because their parents were busted for sugar distribution or anyone in rehab for a coffee habit.

It just blows my mind after all the history of drug use problems from the 60's onward that anyone would try and justify drug use, including pot.




 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 07:49 PM
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I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use.


It's not just this board, it's society.

Alcohol, tobacoo and caffiene are all drugs too, and they're abused daily, even by kids.

Sugar is terrible for the body, yet it's in EVERYTHING these days, in huge quantities...where's the outrage about that?




If you want to maintain your credibility better rethink the caffeine and sugar portion of your statement. I'm not aware of any children in foster care because their parents were busted for sugar distribution or anyone in rehab for a coffee habit.

It just blows my mind after all the history of drug use problems from the 60's onward that anyone would try and justify drug use, including pot.






Hey, I'm a product of '40s and '50s alcoholism and psychosis and when I got out of that, late sixties, I was up to my ears in ...everything.

With all my experience, I recommend psychosis. It's all natural, organic and it's free!

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 07:55 PM
Can we all agree that heroin is a bad choice? There's gotta be some common ground here somewhere.
 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 09:20 PM
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Can we all agree that heroin is a bad choice? There's gotta be some common ground here somewhere.


No, you're not getting off that light with this common ground business, heroin is actually a lovely thing... if you do a little up your nose, every now and then.

"little", "nose", and "now and then" is where most of the dummies get off the road and into the weeds.

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 09:25 PM
Hard drugs suck.

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Sugar is terrible for the body, yet it's in EVERYTHING these days, in huge quantities...where's the outrage about that?


Sure, nobody's ever been busted for sugar. Does that make it healthy? Of course not! Just because something's legal doesn't mean it's healthy and all-natural. Hatred is legal as well, might I remind you. And so are message boards, and heaven knows they're addictive as can be.

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 09:43 PM
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Sure, nobody's ever been busted for sugar. Does that make it healthy? Of course not! Just because something's legal doesn't mean it's healthy and all-natural. Hatred is legal as well, might I remind you. And so are message boards, and heaven knows they're addictive as can be.


Just because somethign is natural, doesn't mean it's good for you. As far as sugar goes our employees have never called in "sick" in the morning because they had too many Pop-Tarts the night before. Sugar doesn't alter your conscious state the way drugs do, Try a little fresh air and exercise, that's a nice harmless high.

[Edited on 10/4/2005 by BodineFan]

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 11:24 PM
greetings:

If someone wants to get "high" , let them
eventually, you will take account of your actions
within your own life or the lives of others

the people who complain most about "control" in the workplace
by either thier employer or the government are ones who use drugs
I can apply the word "abuser" very easily,but it would offend alot of people
here. Willingly changing your state of mind from a normal one or willingly indulging in an activity
that can have severe legal and financial consequences is an abuse .

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 11:31 PM
Wow, so many to respond to, so little time.

We have another thread like this already.

Judging others before all the facts are in doesn't make for an enlightened opinion, and it doesn't add to any debate it just regurgitates hate for something of which you are ignorant.

Sugar and caffiene are both bad for your health. Both do cause heightened awareness, and that changes perceptions as a result. Tests have shown caffiene actually makes time seem to go by slower...because you have the heightened awareness...makes sense. These substances can and are abused by many in society...children and teenagers being the worst case scenario's.

While addiction to these substances might not seem bad or endangering, doesn't it seem hypocritcal to you that they are cornerstones in our society, widely marketed to your children? We have teens with lots of emotional problems, chemical dependencies.

Here's a good guestion for ya; is sugar the gateway drug? Does it teach kids about getting "high"? I remember looooong before I smoked pot, I used to cram tons of sour gums [remember they came in a package of maybe 15, loose in different flavours all sour?] into my mouth because it was fun..and got me wired. Although I didn't know it was wired...but my parents did.

How many teens know what a "sugar rush" is?

When society stops marketing drugs, and "drug-like" substances to children, we may solve the problem of drug addiction. I'm all for it. A clean sober world would be an interesting creative place, with happiness and peace and lots of flowers I'm sure.

But until then, lets figure out what's wrong and go after the root cause of drug addiction; unhappiness.

Putting pot users in jail, and ridiculing them doesn't help matters; marijuana is the same as alcohol, and the effort to fight the hypocrisy and sustain it only divides us from what matters.

Either criminalize booze...whoops, that doesn't work...or legalise marijuana.

Then we can attack poverty, mental illness, and whatever else needs fixin', possibly my stinky feet.

40 years at least of spinning our wheels on this issue and still we get threads like this.





[Edited on 10/4/2005 by musicalbeds]

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 11:42 PM
Hate and ignorance is the worst dope I ever saw and read about.

 

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  posted on 10/3/2005 at 11:55 PM
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Can we all agree that heroin is a bad choice? There's gotta be some common ground here somewhere.


One plan for Afganistan's poppy harvest is to convert it to pain killers for developing countries.

Sounds like a good idea

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 12:08 AM
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I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use.


It's not just this board, it's society.

Alcohol, tobacoo and caffiene are all drugs too, and they're abused daily, even by kids.

Sugar is terrible for the body, yet it's in EVERYTHING these days, in huge quantities...where's the outrage about that?




If you want to maintain your credibility better rethink the caffeine and sugar portion of your statement. I'm not aware of any children in foster care because their parents were busted for sugar distribution or anyone in rehab for a coffee habit.




You are stuck on stupid

Caffiene and refined sugar are stimulants just like cocaine and meth are. Not as strong but
still stimulants.

I used to work with a dude that couldn't move his bowels until he had 4 or 5 cups of coffee in the morning.
That's a physical dependance, that's an addiction.

I used to date a gal that had to have caffiene to be able to sleep because of her abuse of caffiene
to try and make up for lack of proper sleep.

Too much sugar and weight gain is the cause of many health problems including type II diabetes.

You don't know what you are talking about

Go and read "From Chocolate to Morphine : Everything You Need to Know About Mind-Altering Drugs"
by Dr. Andrew Weil and Winifred Rosen

It explains what a drug is, what addiction is and benefits and risks of drugs.
No BS , no judging , just the medical facts.

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 01:46 AM
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I used to work with a dude that couldn't move his bowels until he had 4 or 5 cups of coffee in the morning.


Hah!When did we work together John?
actually,it only takes me 1 or 2...

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 05:38 AM
Just to make things less confusing, stillrocken05 is not me

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 05:49 AM
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I'm a lurker, usually just checking the ABB setlists.

But after reading the thread about how to circumvent a drug test I had to respond.

Drug use by teenagers can usually be chalked up to naivete, curiosity, or peer pressure.
But if you're over 20 and still smoking weed your stuck on stupid. Period.


I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use. I even read on another thread where a guy said he had given some pot to a recovering coccaine addict at the Wanne fest.

How absolutely thoughtless, wreckless, shameful, and unloving. I hope he realizes he may well have set her back on the road to addiction. I'm sure her family appreciates that !

Companies administer those drug tests for a reason.



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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 07:05 PM
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But if you're over 20 and still smoking weed your stuck on stupid. Period.
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I guess I fall under the ďstuck on stupidĒ category. Iím long over 20 and still use drugs. And this may sound completely bizarre to Mr. StillRockin2005, but Iíve managed to excel in the workplace and enjoy a wonderful family life. No disrespect toward those who are struggling with sobriety, but I find it amusing when people stigmatize drug users. Nobody has statistics on the people in society who use drugs responsibly and in moderation Ė because they rarely get arrested or donít come close to hitting hit rock bottom. I eat healthy, exercise regularly, and happen to enjoy an altered state of mind every now and again. Iím not trying to justify drugs, but all I can do is shrug my shoulders and disagree with those who demonize it. Iíll even say that the recreational activities I enjoy, such as skiing, is far more risky than the occasional drug use. In twenty years I may see your point, but for now, you sound sheltered and narrow-minded.


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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 07:17 PM
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I'm a lurker, usually just checking the ABB setlists.

But after reading the thread about how to circumvent a drug test I had to respond.

Drug use by teenagers can usually be chalked up to naivete, curiosity, or peer pressure.
But if you're over 20 and still smoking weed your stuck on stupid. Period.


I was shocked to read on that thread the laissez faire attitude of so many people regarding drug use. I even read on another thread where a guy said he had given some pot to a recovering coccaine addict at the Wanne fest.

How absolutely thoughtless, wreckless, shameful, and unloving. I hope he realizes he may well have set her back on the road to addiction.
I'm sure her family appreciates that!

Companies administer those drug tests for a reason.
Wait just a GD minute there!

You are talking about me, and where in the HELL did you read that I GAVE a recovering cocaine addict some pot? In my own defense, I smoked it with her, but didn't give it to her. I DID talk to her about it and asked her how she felt about it, and whether she thought it would make her feel like she was backsliding in her recovery, and when she told me she was OK with it, we fired it up. If it hadn't been me smoking it with her, it would have been someone else.

StillRockin2005, why don't you take your self righteous attitude somewhere else? (I am holding WAY back as it is.)

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 08:02 PM
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Just to make things less confusing, stillrocken05 is not me


I don't think anyone made that assumption.

BTW, Dave, what is a Grateful Dead minute?

 

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I don't think anyone made that assumption.

BTW, Dave, what is a Grateful Dead minute?
Slightly shorter than a New York minute.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 08:16 PM
Really? That surprises me. I always figured a minute by the GD would be at least three times longer than a minute by anyone else.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 08:18 PM
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Really? That surprises me. I always figured a minute by the GD would be at least three times longer than a minute by anyone else.
Depends on the state of mind at the time...

 

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