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  posted on 9/13/2005 at 10:18 PM
....is when is he going to pick up an ELECTRIC guitar and get CRAZY HORSE up and running again??

(and I don't mean 'Greendale', either, or the odd song here & there on a regular Neil Young cd)

I mean ZUMA. I mean RAGGED GLORY. Or EKTIN.

You can't think it's the end, but you know a while back I did read that either Roberts (his manager) or someone close to him said something to the effect of 'as for Crazy Horse Neil's finished. He has an ear problem and besides, he has no desire to go and do things he's already done'

It's just that it's overdue, the last real guitar-based cd was Broken Arrow (not couting Greendale, because that was without Sampedro, and not couting Year of The Horse, the live album) and that was somewhat lacking IMHO. It had it's moments but I don't think it scaled anywhere near the heights of the earlier Crazy Horse stuff.


 
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  posted on 9/13/2005 at 10:27 PM
I read that Neil "doesn't wear ear protection, and he's had a problem with that recently. I doubt if we'll be seeing this again soon. Right now he's gone into total acoustic." So does that mean no to the Crazy Horse stuff? Maybe. Shame on him for hurting his ears.
Wasn't Greendale sort of out there too? It was this whole story in song revolving around a fictional town. He even had a whole area devoted to it on his website. But maybe he's a frustrated writer and just wanted a shot at writing a book. Who knows. Do you remember that weird Garth Brooks/Chris Gaines thing? Altar ego's must be the thing when musicians get bored. Lol...

 

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  posted on 9/13/2005 at 10:31 PM
Miss the power of the Horse. W/ all due respect to Neil and his incredible body of work, the Horse is still my favorite incarnation of Neil. I played Ragged Glory for a 6 months straight when it came out. Greendale (both album and tour) just didn't do it for me. Wish he'd go out and do one more go round with the Horse.

Come to think of it, what a double bill. Horse and Mule!!

 

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  posted on 9/13/2005 at 10:57 PM
Neil seems to have found a domestic bliss, and it's reflected in his mellow songwriting. Silver and Gold was fantastic I thought, just an intimate, revealing portrait of where he is right now. While it was realeased a few years ago, if you listen to the album I think you'll see that not much has changed.

His wife does backup vocals, they sing songs while he strums acoustic....he's settled down.

That surgery he had a few months ago worried me, but he seems ok. I first saw him in 1981, learned guitar in general with his first position fingering songs....Heart of Gold, etc...he's the man.

And like all of us, he's "gettin' old".

 

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  posted on 9/13/2005 at 11:54 PM
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That surgery he had a few months ago worried me
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Beds, what surgery was that?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 03:24 AM
Neil's history shows he can only go so long w/o the Horse...new album is commercial concession to the label IMHO...wait'll the first archive release comes out in spring 2006 and I am betting an announcement of a summer tour w/Crazy Horse--w/Neil doing solo acoustic mid-set or as opener--will follow shortly thereafter...saw the band on Greendale tour and the finale. with choice stuff like "Free World" at high volume couldn't have shown Neil enjoying himself more...hopefully the health issues don't get in the way, but...
 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 05:34 AM
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Beds, what surgery was that?


Brain Tumor...

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 05:44 AM
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Brain Tumor...


was it a tumor or an aneurisim? I cant recall which.

As for whether or not he goes back to Crazy Horse...the only one who knows is Neil...and I bet he aint sayin **** . It has been a while, but people move on...he may have found something new he enjoys...or this may be another technotronic phase, only time will tell.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 07:00 AM
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was it a tumor or an aneurisim? I cant recall which.




He had an aneurysim which had to be treated with surgery and then shortly after His Father died. He was a Canadian sports writer named Scott Young. So he had a bunch of stuff going on. I think thats probably why he is more mellow now.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 07:37 AM
"Keep on rockin' in the free world!!!!!!!!"----Go Neil!!!!!
 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 07:49 AM
Any Neil suits me just fine...well,any Neil 'cept the "Trans" period......Neil + Crazy Horse = Unbeatable !

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 09:23 AM
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Any Neil suits me just fine...well,any Neil 'cept the "Trans" period......Neil + Crazy Horse = Unbeatable !


I second. Or third or fourth depending on the other posts.

If you could wear out a CD, I'd be through my 3rd copy of Ragged Glory. I love all his stuff, even though I was also confused by Trans Hugh...

Remember, a few years ago, Pete Townsend also said that he was through with electric guitar due to hearing problems, but his did come back to an extent after laying off the Hiwatts for awhile. Maybe the same thing will happen with Neil.

If not, I'll still happily listen to any new acoustic stuff that he wants to send our way...

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 10:52 AM
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Neil seems to have found a domestic bliss, and it's reflected in his mellow songwriting. Silver and Gold was fantastic I thought, just an intimate, revealing portrait of where he is right now. While it was realeased a few years ago, if you listen to the album I think you'll see that not much has changed.

His wife does backup vocals, they sing songs while he strums acoustic....he's settled down.

That surgery he had a few months ago worried me, but he seems ok. I first saw him in 1981, learned guitar in general with his first position fingering songs....Heart of Gold, etc...he's the man.


And like all of us, he's "gettin' old".


Right, good points...

Silver and Gold was a ........comfortable album. Many think that after Ragged Glory or SWA that he never had the magic again. I'm not sure about that, but I do know that AYP and S&G, Greendale didn't really do it for me as much as the earlier stuff. There is a certain charm to Greendale though, in all it's rawness...

By the way-think Ragged Glory is his loudest?? No-that goes to the EP (that only 5,000 were released in Japan) ELDORADO.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 10:55 AM
Ha, the 'gettin old' part was supposed to be in the quote..... but, uh, 30's I suppose is on it's way............
 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 10:56 AM
..closer to 40 than 30....nah, that' s not old
 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 01:08 PM
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Ha, the 'gettin old' part was supposed to be in the quote..... but, uh, 30's I suppose is on it's way............

Age may factor in but look at Ozzy...he keeps goin...and goin...even if he looks like death warmed over (oh i forgot thats his STYLE) LOL...Love the Ozz Man!

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 01:27 PM
I first saw Neil in '72 and been a fan every since. I stuck with him through what most folks would consider "being out there" on several albums ( Shocking Pinks, Trans,etc.)
I believe most folks would consider him at his best with CH. However it is still refreshing to hear an acoustic/electric album which helps you remember the Harvest days.
But the bottom line is that he is still doing it and has been a great influence on many musicians. And unlike the Stones, you don't have to pay $400 + for one of his shows. I just hope for some of his unreleased material that has been said to be fantastic, will someday be released.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 05:06 PM
You know, in my opinion some of the 80's stuff he did isn't ALL bad. Plus, much of it isn't released, like the Old Ways from '85 isn't the original Old Ways. Supposedly the original one is much better. And some of the live stuff from the International Harvesters is pretty good. As for Trans, there's one thing I can say about it-underneath all the synths and vocoders and all that crap there are Neil songs there. You can still tell it's a Neil song. But he sort of lost me with that Everybody's Rockin' album......he actually got sued for releasing material that wasn't 'like Neil Young'. So then he said that he'd do nothing BUT country from that point on, and then all he'd ever be is country, so they couldn't say he didn't sound like himself gotta love it

The others from the 80's-Life and Landing on Water...just awful IMO...almost unlistenable. The songs just weren't there and the production was awful.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 05:33 PM
I saw CSN&Y a couple years ago, a DJ friend of mine gave me a great pair of seats. Somewhere in the middle, they turned the stage over to Neil and the guy can still F'n rock. Definately the highlight of the show, although the rest of the show was very good as well. He's got that thing going on with "old black" and I'm sure at some point it will come back around.

A lot of people don't like Neil's voice, in the same way they don't like Dylan's, but to me his voice really gets in my head and really touches me. Whether it's mellow solo stuff or with Crazy Horse, It always conects with me

 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 05:46 PM
I saw Neil last november on the Vote for change tour. Man I was under 10 ft from the man and Bruce and the E street band playing "All along the watchtower" for a good 15 minutes. He had about as much energy as Bruce did! I think Neil still has a lot left in him, maybe he just didn't feel it was necissary for "Prarie Wind." I still like it just the same as I liked Greendale. Its still Neil.
 

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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 09:52 PM
One thing about Neil is that everytime you think he's gonna pull Crazy Horse back on stage, he decides to go country. I gave up trying to figure out which genre he's going to tackle next. I guess he'll stick with this country act for awhile until he grows bored with it and then hopefully Crazy Horse will resurface.

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A lot of people don't like Neil's voice, in the same way they don't like Dylan's, but to me his voice really gets in my head and really touches me. Whether it's mellow solo stuff or with Crazy Horse, It always conects with me


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  posted on 9/14/2005 at 10:12 PM
What's really interesting about Neil's voice is that Stephen Stills would make wisecracks on stage about his singing during Buffalo Springfield, so luckily I guess Neil was able to overcome his embarassment. That had to be rough having someone in your own band calling you out.

 

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  posted on 9/15/2005 at 06:10 AM
Right, Stills hated Young's voice.

But that's what made Neil a star in the aftermath of the Springfield, make no doubt about it....on 'Goldrush' sure, the songs were there but that record's is all about Neil's voice.

But look what the time does, compare their voices now..... one of 'em sounds like he's got a mouthful of marbles while singing....

 

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  posted on 9/15/2005 at 06:23 AM
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Right, Stills hated Young's voice.

But that's what made Neil a star in the aftermath of the Springfield, make no doubt about it....on 'Goldrush' sure, the songs were there but that record's is all about Neil's voice.

But look what the time does, compare their voices now..... one of 'em sounds like he's got a mouthful of marbles while singing....


Most of the things that I've read about Stills gives the impression that he could be a real egotistical jerk.

If I was Neil, I would have retorted with something about that that dorky haircut...

 

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