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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 10:49 PM
Last night at the jones beach show i had 2nd balcony tix. If you sat there you may know that not too many people were standing.However there were a few. A couple seats away from me there were two people standing and everyone in back of them was sitting. Someone right behind them asked extremely politely if they could take a seat for a little so he could see the stage. They sat down but seemed a bit dissapointed(though later on i think they forgot about the whole thing.) I cant decide if it was the right thing to do. On one hand they have the right to stand at a concert but on the other they were blocking a lot of people anyway i just want to see what you guys think of this.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 10:51 PM
It's always a tough call.
I prefer to stand for most of a show, but I won't do it if I'm in a section thats primarily sitting. If someone in front of me is blocking my view, then all bets are off.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 10:55 PM
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It's always a tough call.
I prefer to stand for most of a show, but I won't do it if I'm in a section thats primarily sitting. If someone in front of me is blocking my view, then all bets are off.


I was also in the balcony. I noticed some people were walking to the front of the balcony in the aisle so they would not block the sitters. It seemed the people in my section were just grooving to the music in their heads. I didn't see anyone who didn't look into it.

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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 10:55 PM
Yeah i totaly agree but the problem is that if one person stands than they cause almost a chain of people standing--not that its a bad thing to stand but out of courtesy towards the people behind you. Imsure ill change my mind over this amillion times though!

 

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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 11:00 PM
Ditto.... I am very sensitive to this issue as I am 6'6" and can ruin a a night for a sitter, but if I can not see then all bets are off.Additionally, if on the floor and arriving early to the show, people should show some respect and avoid pushing forward and blocking others view. That is the epitome of rude! If you arrive early to get a prime view,then you have earned the right for the choice floor viewing. Nothing pisses me off more than a guy letting a woman lead him thru the crowd 20 minutes into the show. He allows the woman to face the music as they push forward. That is so weak!

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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 11:24 PM
I think it's polite to sit if you're asked. I don't know why some people make such a big deal out of it. There was a dancer in front of us (orchestra H) who kept dancing even when everybody was sitting down. A woman behind me apparently asked him to sit down at some point, and even though he hardly sat at all, and he was close to tears over it! After Dreams, he sat down for a minute, turned around, and said to her "I hope you're happy you've ruined my night. I'm seeing my favorite band, with Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks, and you ruined it!" He left and we didn't see him for the rest of the show. Boo hoo.

 

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  posted on 8/25/2005 at 11:28 PM
hahahaha wow--i tihnk the people i was talking about muttered something but i wasnt close enough to understand but nothing like what marley said-thats just rediculous!

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 02:34 AM
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"On one hand they have the right to stand at a concert..."


As long as they dont block the view of those behind them who are sitting.

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"...but on the other they were blocking a lot of people..."


At that point they no longer have the right to stand.

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"anyway i just want to see what you guys think of this."


The concert is for the enjoyment of everyone who is there, not just the ones standing. This is just plain ole common sense courtesy and showing consideration for others.

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 06:14 AM
I can understand the dillema here, but u must realize that someone who doesnt want to stand at a show (at least for part of the time, b/c people do get tired) is a party pooper.

At least they asked nicely. If people yell and are rude if Im standing and they arent i tell them to piss off. But if they asked me kindly to sit for a while I bet I would do it, only because they were courteous enough to ask nicely as opposed to yelling at me for doing something wrong.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 06:45 AM
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I can understand the dillema here, but u must realize that someone who doesnt want to stand at a show (at least for part of the time, b/c people do get tired) is a party pooper.



so if I have a bad ankle and cant stand and dance for very long, I'm a party pooper? If the vibe of the show is telling me to sit down and chill, I'm a party pooper? Venues have seats for a reason...if they were meant to be completely general admission, they'd be like the lawn sections in back. If you dont want to worrya bout someone sitting and ruining your day, go onto the lawn. Lawn is cheaper, anyways.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:25 AM
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The concert is for the enjoyment of everyone who is there, not just the ones standing. This is just plain ole common sense courtesy and showing consideration for others.



The concert is also for the enjoyment of everyone who is there, not just the ones sitting.


I've been to WAAAAAAAAAAAY to many show where people ask me to sit; CSNY, the Tragically Hip, the Rolling Stones, the ABB...it seems that any band with people over 30 in it has this problem in their audience.

When there's a lawn section, the problem can be easily solved. When there's not...it gets difficult.

I don't wanna ruin anyone's show, but I don't wanna sit for the whole show either.

Bands get into the crowd having a good time. Bands like a crowd with energy...many bands feed off the energy.

Sitting on your ass for the entire concert doesn't send off as much energy as dancing.... we can debate this, but that's my opinion.

If the people behind you wanna sit, trade seats with them or try to move...a solution might be a thought away.

But DON'T remain seated for a whole concert and not have fun just to pacify others...that's ridiculous.

If the people behind you don't like you standing, only do it for half the concert...time it.








 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:27 AM
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If you dont want to worrya bout someone sitting and ruining your day, go onto the lawn. Lawn is cheaper, anyways.

Yeah but most people want to be close up and plus the seats were i was sitting werent so expensive. Or the best thing you can do is buy front row tix!!! Stand all you want there im sure!

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:30 AM
So in Hartford I am there with my 8 year old and this over weight drunken focken slob jackass 2 rows behind me wanted to sit and was yelling as loud as he could, "Sit down you focken b!tch, sit the fock down so I can see!" through 3 whole songs, do you think I was going to be courteous then?

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:45 AM
There is a vibe that you feel, especially in the areas on the floor nearer to the stage. It's hard to keep your butt in your seat if you're fortunate enough to have one of those seats. And, yeah, I'm sure the band feeds off of that.

What I don't get, is how in the "theater" venues people feel the need to stand when they're way up in one of the balconies. At the Beacon a few years back, there were some folks who had the first tier in the top balcony. They didn't need to stand to see, and I'm pretty sure that the band couldn't see them anyway. The seats up there are tiered ... pretty steeply. Standing for long periods in a precarious situation like that can make you feel off-balance. Ther's also the vertigo thing!

Another consideration ... some people have disabilities and simply CAN'T stand. It's easy to spot the ones in wheel chairs, but there are others with other disabilities that are not visable.

I guess it would be real nice if the venues were arranged as follows:

Section A (Arthritic)
Section B (boogeyin')
Section C (children)
Section D (Drunks)
Section E (eclectic - the usual mix)
Section F (for the @ssholes who insist on screaming "Freebird!" - no matter who's playing)
Section G (Ganja - you know what goes on here!)

Anyway, you get the drift.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:48 AM
I certainly get the drift from section G....damn, they got Pepe Lepew back there?

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:49 AM
Stoners in the back? That eliminates any chance of a contact buzz. Switch places with the drunks. Easier for them to refill and closer to the bathroom!

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:52 AM
I think the standers/dancers need to be more considerate of the people sitting behind them. If they want to stand and shake their asses all night, they need to migrate to an area where EVERYONE is doing that.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 07:56 AM
I think the sitters need to be more considerate of the people standing/dancing in front of them. If they want to sit on their asses all night, they need to migrate to an area where EVERYONE is doing that.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 08:05 AM
Hey musicalbeds, do you have small children? What do you say to them when they stand in front of the television when you're watching it?

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 08:20 AM
Apples and oranges Rusty....unless you go to concerts to pull an authority trip...

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 10:18 AM
quote from Rusty

I guess it would be real nice if the venues were arranged as follows:

Section A (Arthritic)
Section B (boogeyin')
Section C (children)
Section D (Drunks)
Section E (eclectic - the usual mix)
Section F (for the @ssholes who insist on screaming "Freebird!" - no matter who's playing)
Section G (Ganja - you know what goes on here!)

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Wouldn't that be nice?

This is an impossible problem to solve. In the "good old days" (god, yes, I sound like my parents), everyone sat. I always wanted to stand up and dance but I didn't because it wasn't the norm. Nowadays, sometimes I want to sit and sometimes I want to stand. I have no choice, however, because standing is now the norm. I used to come home from concerts and feel a little uncomfortable because my ears would ring all night. Now I come home and feel a little uncomfortable because my feet hurt.
Bottom line, however, I am always grateful when someone hasn't barfed or me or screamed Whippin' Post in my ear all night.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 10:45 AM
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Wouldn't that be nice?

This is an impossible problem to solve. In the "good old days" (god, yes, I sound like my parents), everyone sat. I always wanted to stand up and dance but I didn't because it wasn't the norm. Nowadays, sometimes I want to sit and sometimes I want to stand. I have no choice, however, because standing is now the norm. I used to come home from concerts and feel a little uncomfortable because my ears would ring all night. Now I come home and feel a little uncomfortable because my feet hurt.
Bottom line, however, I am always grateful when someone hasn't barfed or me or screamed Whippin' Post in my ear all night.
God help the goofball that barfs on me at a show. NO MERCY

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 10:53 AM
I think Gregg is the only one who needs to sit

I kind of go with the flow...I prefer to stand because I feel like I'm into it a lttle more...but I'm not a harda$$ about it.

The biggest thing that pisses me off is the NO SMOKING...I understand the view on cigarettes these days but give me a break...it's a rock show for crying out loud. Non smokers rule everywhere else in the city...let me have my smoke and a beer at the shows!!

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 10:55 AM
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I think Gregg is the only one who needs to sit

I kind of go with the flow...I prefer to stand because I feel like I'm into it a lttle more...but I'm not a harda$$ about it.

The biggest thing that pisses me off is the NO SMOKING...I understand the view on cigarettes these days but give me a break...it's a rock show for crying out loud. Non smokers rule everywhere else in the city...let me have my smoke and a beer at the shows!!
Nothing personal Kazi, but if I am going to be subjected to second hand smoke, I'd prefer it to be from LEFT handed cigarettes.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2005 at 10:56 AM
When I was at the Tweeter show last Saturday, I just balanced my butt on the back of the chair so I could see the stage.....It worked!

And I'm probably gonna do the same thing tonight when I go to see the Steve Miller Band & Ratdog in Mansfield.

 

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