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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 09:31 AM
hello, i am new on this site, so i don't know if this topic is already answered/
here is my question : is it true dat duane make the opening music of LAYLA and that
Eric Clapton didn't like it and that was the reason made an acoustic version that was very lame ?

 
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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 09:44 AM
you think the clapton unplugged version is lame?!

 

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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 09:47 AM
Compared to the electric version, it doesn't compare. The emotion just seems to be missing on the accoustic version. I don't think the accoustic version sucks, but it doesn't compare to the original.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 03:53 PM
There is always room for dissenting opinions, Cortez, but there are a lot of people who really, really dislike the acoustic Layla, and I am one of them. No passion, no fire. Clapton took one of the most powerful rock songs in history and turned it into a cheesy pop tune with no energy.

Duane was definitely a big part of the original version, and drummer Jim Gordon wrote and played the piano part, so the stripped-down version may represent Eric's vision better. Even if that is true, count me among those who greatly prefer the original.

 
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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 07:43 PM
Duane did play the intro to Layla (it's actually a lick he borrowed from Albert King), he also takes the slide solo and plays a bunch of the guitar parts, as he does throughout that album. He may have been reponsible for the faster version of the song. Clapton obviously liked it or he wouldn't have played it that way. It was his band after all. He was probably just trying to do something different 25 years later.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 07:48 PM
The original opening to Layla is 8 of the most regonized opening notes in rock history. I don't like the acoustic version at all just like I don't like the acoustic version of Liz Reed.
 

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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 07:54 PM
Theres an acoustic version of Liz Reed? What other ABB unplugged versions are there? And I've read that Duane did make the opening lick, but i forgot where I read it.
 

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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 07:58 PM
There are a few versions... one's on Second Set,that has to be the easiest to find. There's one on the IRSA disc, and it was done live at least once with Jack Pearson and Oteil on 3/20/98.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2004 at 09:22 PM
Comparing the unplugged version of Layla with the Derek and the Dominos version is like comparing apples and oranges. From things that Clapton has said, I believe the acoustic version is much closer to how he had originally conceived the song. The whole "Unplugged" album is just a nice easy-to-listen-to album. The DATD version is a true classic. I would imagine that Clapton welcomed Duane's contributions. He seems to have had a lot of respect for Duane as a musician. Duane's slide work on Layla is so good it's downright amazing. He is playing up beyond the fretboard. When I first heard it as a kid, I thought it was a violin!

 

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  posted on 4/13/2004 at 01:08 AM
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I would imagine that Clapton welcomed Duane's contributions.

Well, he's the one who invited Duane to play on the album.

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He seems to have had a lot of respect for Duane as a musician.

That may be a big understatement... he seems to have trouble talking about Duane to this day.

 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 07:21 AM
The "Umplugged" version of Layla is good.....in the style of Clapton of the 70's.
When "Layla and other assorted love songs" was recorded the group was in the middle of psichedelic era...
Anyway I preferred the original...Duane's solo here is one of the best and most innovative of his career. Yes It's true, when I heard it for the first time I think there was a violin!

 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 09:51 AM
"Well, he's the one who invited Duane to play on the album."

-----Dumb question here: Had it never crossed Tom Dowd's mind to get those two together before August 1970?

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 10:59 AM
Surely Tom Dowd had a prominent rule in this meeting.....but I have read somewhere that Eric Clapton want to know Allman after hearing some Duane's licks in Wilson Pickett's "Hey Jude"....When Clapton saw "The Allman Brothers" live......the rest is history...
 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 12:55 PM
If Tom hadn't been the producer for both bands, maybe it wouldn't have happened. Hard to say. He certainly did his part in getting great performances from everybody.

 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 01:01 PM
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The original opening to Layla is 8 of the most regonized opening notes in rock history.


Interesting statement. I'd never thought of that but I think you're right. It just jumps at you right out of the box. Very recognizable!

 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 08:16 PM
Is it true that Layla was actually a lot slower but they accidently sped it up and released it?

If you don't like the acoustic version, try listening to Clapton's newer versions. It's horrible! The other two guitarists have metal tones and the end of the song is crappy. It sounds empty without the slide. The ABB summer '03 verson blows it away!

 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 08:38 PM
It was definitely not a lot slower, but it was sped up a little bit. Sounds like a lot of songs were at that time.

[Edited on 4/17/2004 by Marley]

 

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  posted on 4/16/2004 at 09:30 PM
I could be talkin' out my ass here - that happens from time to time - but the way I've always seen it is this: I mean, we all know the story, right? Clapton gets in way over his head because of love, get's hammered behind a butt-load of drugs and writes rock & roll's great epic cry for love - those opening notes are can stir many feelings and emotions, even after all these years - I bought the album 33 years ago for $4.98 at The
Wherehouse. You know, Vinyl...
So in the middle of Clapton's turmoil comes this incredible outpouring of emotion, resulting in a song with serious power - Layla is an Angry song. Layla is a Pissed Off song. The story is heartbreaking enough made even more intense as Clapton basically shouts the words. Clearly he's had enough...
But by 1992, he's had some time to chill. What I hear in the Unplugged version is peace and freedom from love's martyrdom. Sorry ladies, but it was all over a CHICK.
So maybe that night he just didn't need a Marshall to tell the story, aye?


 

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  posted on 4/19/2004 at 04:37 PM
In Tom Nolan's 1975 book on the Brothers, it is
stated that Eric Clapton only plays acoustic guitar
on `Layla'...maybe some of you pickers out there
can confirm or deny this.

 

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  posted on 4/19/2004 at 11:04 PM
If you have the Layla 20th Anniversary set you will notice on the tracking sheet for Layla that eric is shown playing guitar on channels 3,5,9,11,12 and 14 on the 1st section and channel 3 and 6 on the 2nd section. I'm going to assume that the box guitar on channel 6 is the acoustic. Hope that helps.
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  posted on 4/22/2004 at 07:08 PM
I was reading in the news paper once and they said Clapton should have called it Diet Layla or Layla Light when he did the unplugged version.

 

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  posted on 4/22/2004 at 09:36 PM
If you can remember way back when Layla was released it recieved a luke warm review. It was not untill later that it became a must own album. I think it is one of the album that ended up standing the test of time. FE, EAP, Can't buy a Thrill, Layla and a few others will be the albums you must own. By the way I read FE, EAP and I think Layla will be coming out on SACD in mid may.
 

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  posted on 4/24/2004 at 11:15 PM
the clapton vibe around here seems to be really negative, not just on this thread. why the hate for such a great musician? i saw him in '01 and loved it and bought tickets for ATL today. i thought the "unplugged" album was great. it's not cream or datd, but it's not supposed to be that. the guy appears to have mellowed musically. is that so bad? i really enjoy clapton's music from all eras. the guitar work on his live album from 01 is very strong. it has better tone than his work since cream in my opinion.
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  posted on 4/25/2004 at 12:03 AM
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the clapton vibe around here seems to be really negative, not just on this thread. why the hate for such a great musician?

It's very mixed. The main reason is that many people think he's a great player who hasn't been playing like he's capable of for a long time.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2004 at 07:57 AM
Eric is a remarkably accomplished player and needs nothing from any of us.........
his contribution and talent are enormous.........did you like my last painting?.....
how much should I care?......Eric, like Dickey, has never been afraid of being over shadowed by a second guitarist......wonder how many never would have heard of Duane if not for Layla....and i'm not talking about us here on the site.....
Eric has nothing to prove to anyone but himself if he feels like it....

[Edited on 4/25/2004 by PeachNutt]

 
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