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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 02:50 PM
https://youtu.be/JyOcvMB-cvk

Another minor who is also a Student. So sad.

But it's NOT a Mental Heath issue...

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 03:12 PM
Wow - didn't miss a beat there, not even a pause for breath - two seconds of bogus sentiment then straight into gun politics. Quickest I've ever seen that happen on a shooting thread, though of course gun politics is the only reason for these threads, so you aren't being singled out - this was just more honest and to the point - real fast some Charlie Brown teacher noise wawawaA wa wa waaa wa then boom "Mental health".

[Edited on 11/14/2019 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 04:24 PM
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Another minor who is also a Student. So sad.

But it's NOT a Mental Heath issue...


You have made this point endlessly. What are the mental health solutions that you or your right-wing heroes have ready to go that will do anything to fix this epidemic?

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 05:01 PM
Right wing heroes, left wing liberals, moderates, BLAH - has nothing to do with it
Thereís no answer/solution to gun violence
Would also hesitate to call it an epidemic, they happen occasionally, not often IMO - one of these are one too many, of course there have been several
All the ensuing discussion will have been posted many times before (see POTUS thread)

 

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Another minor who is also a Student. So sad.

But it's NOT a Mental Heath issue...


You have made this point endlessly. What are the mental health solutions that you or your right-wing heroes have ready to go that will do anything to fix this epidemic?


What do I think?

Horrific parenting

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 05:14 PM
I am right there with ya BV but that is a cause not a solution. Try this, BETTER (as in not liberal) parenting.

Now I must edit. Even liberal parenting is better than horrific parenting. Knee Jerk reaction for me to assume there is not much difference. But that is my flaw.

[Edited on 11/14/2019 by KCJimmy]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 05:44 PM
We have horrific parenting, and no controls in place to manage this risk for gun ownership. We have laws in place for horrific parenting in just about every area except gun ownership.
 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 05:48 PM
These tragedies happen because insecure Americans must have their gun, or their emotional support tool.
 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 05:50 PM
I am guessing that some laws dealing with horrible parenting are not utilized any more effectively than some of the laws regarding gun ownership and background checks.



 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 05:58 PM
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Horrific parenting


What do you know about parenting?

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 06:01 PM
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What do you know about parenting?
I Know a Little.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 06:14 PM
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I am right there with ya BV but that is a cause not a solution. Try this, BETTER (as in not liberal) parenting.

Now I must edit. Even liberal parenting is better than horrific parenting. Knee Jerk reaction for me to assume there is not much difference. But that is my flaw.

[Edited on 11/14/2019 by KCJimmy]


My wife and I are liberal. One daughter, 16. 3.8 GPA, choir, varsity cheer, rep theatre, National Honor Society. Works 20 hours a week, works on homework as many or more hours a week. Career goal is Medical Lab Scientist.

You and the rest of the perfect conservatives and perfect conservative parents can GFY, pal.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 06:24 PM
One recalls the 1979 shooting at a California elementary school (2 dead 9 injured) by a 16 yr old teenager, Brenda Spencer - when asked why she did it, she said, ďI donít like MondaysĒ

How do you craft legislation to anticipate someThing, or keep guns out of the hands of someOne, like that
Never any easier to read about this stuff

[Edited on 11/15/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 06:24 PM
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I Know a Little.


Was asking BigV - you strike me as a parent type. I have noticed "liberal dads" tend to help out more with the dirty work, more equality and respect between men and women in general.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 06:47 PM
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I am right there with ya BV but that is a cause not a solution. Try this, BETTER (as in not liberal) parenting.

Now I must edit. Even liberal parenting is better than horrific parenting. Knee Jerk reaction for me to assume there is not much difference. But that is my flaw.


Let me make myself perfectly clear. I have in no way insinuated that one type of Parent is better than the other, Liberal, Conservative or Libertarian...But someone should be held responsible here, how about a new direction?..Let's start holding the Parents responsible for the actions of their Minor children.....

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 06:55 PM
You didn't, and you are right - and the "horrific parenting" is a huge rabbit hole of why that is happening.
 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 07:01 PM
Shooter was the son of an alcoholic father who had recently committed suicide.

Definitely liberal parenting. Thereís no conservative alcoholics and conservatives donít commit suicide.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 07:56 PM
Have we heard from any congenital idiot gun nuts and/or the NRA crowing something like "See!?!?!....Strict regulations would not have stopped this!?!?!?!?!"
 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 08:01 PM
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Have we heard from any congenital idiot gun nuts and/or the NRA crowing something like "See!?!?!....Strict regulations would not have stopped this!?!?!?!?!"


I think a better question is "What drives a Juvenile to act in this manner"?

Until we figure that out, you can ban all the guns you want while the mental Health issue remains...

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 08:06 PM
More reporting has come in, the shooterís father didnít commit suicide, but was an alcoholic. All signs still point to liberal parenting.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 08:25 PM
Its looking like its another kid who didn't fit in at a random school in a random US town seemingly committing some random act. There are kids like this in every school. there should be more of a focus for some alternative methods to get through/engage kids like these. We cant change their home situation but there should be some outlet when they are at school.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 08:51 PM
There are numerous things for disenfranchised kids to do at school, like athletics, drama, music, others - My jr high school had Community Sing, where they played music w/the words projected onto a screen for a full assembly of kids to sing along with - but just stuff like shop (woodworking), glee club (choir).....
It was the kidís 16th birthday
His attempt at suicide failed
Grotesque - very depressing

[Edited on 11/15/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 09:33 PM
Liberals need emotional support animals on flights to feel safe while flying, which can create an annoying flight for others, possible odors, and just be a nuisance for other passengers. The right's emotional support object and hobby is responsible for countless senseless deaths of innocent people each year.
 

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Have we heard from any congenital idiot gun nuts and/or the NRA crowing something like "See!?!?!....Strict regulations would not have stopped this!?!?!?!?!"


I think a better question is "What drives a Juvenile to act in this manner"?

Until we figure that out, you can ban all the guns you want while the mental Health issue remains...

"Until we figure that out, you can ban all the guns you want while the mental Health issue remains..."...how about we ban all guns for say, ten to fifteen years, as we work to eradicate those acmental health issues....Meanwhile, you can just confine yourself to,playing video games til you lose your mind or shoot yourself with a gun you bought at a show (sic)-----sound good there Gaylord?

 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 11:02 PM
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how about we ban all guns for say, ten to fifteen years, as we work to eradicate those acmental health issues....


Not ever going to happen

 

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