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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 09:15 PM
Democrats begin their public impeachment circus and show trial, with pre-selected stoolies and offer up a bunch of cherry-picked witnesses.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 09:37 PM

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 09:47 PM

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 09:49 PM

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 10:22 PM
Offered up as an alternative to the comedy relief the debates have been providing.
 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 10:40 PM
Yep, political entertainment brought to you by politicians primarily grandstanding for the TV cameras - they’ll look like the same well meaning but hapless putzes the candidates do ‘debating’

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 10:51 PM
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Democrats begin their public impeachment circus and show trial, with pre-selected stoolies and offer up a bunch of cherry-picked witnesses.


The only clowns, are trump, Giuliani, and the brain dead, who hang on their nonstop lies.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 12:49 AM
Maybe. Then again the circus has been going on since the president's inauguration. Actually calling the current president's tenure a "circus" is being too kind.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 11:52 AM
It’s hard to believe that Obama’s words, and push to create Obamacare, was met by the right as an attempted hijacking of American culture and values. Makes you wonder what it was about him that created such a paranoid reaction. But Trump brilliantly capitalized on this weakness, and convinced them all that it’s a sinister Democrat plot to redistribute white wealth and privilege to the brown immigrants, and Hillary is going to continue it, and that Trump is the only way to stop it!
 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 12:22 PM

A historic moment, and a shining example of democracy in action. Whatever happens, this is a great thing - sets us apart from all other governments - the Founding Fathers built in an immune system into our body politic.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 12:51 PM
X2 - May not agree w/the necessity of invoking these impeachment proceedings - but wouldn’t trade or compromise the Constitution for anything ever - democracy is the greatest form of government - vox populi - as Gerald Ford said in quoting the Constitution after he became president, “Here, the people rule”

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A historic moment, and a shining example of democracy in action. Whatever happens, this is a great thing - sets us apart from all other governments - the Founding Fathers built in an immune system into our body politic.


I would agree in principle, but imho, this is a witch hunt set in motion by a bunch of sore losers who've been reduced to grasping at straws. A last chance "Hail Mary" before the Election and the stakes are high because if this is proven to be the Travesty I believe it is, President Trump will stroll back to the White House in his bedroom slippers.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 01:12 PM
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A historic moment, and a shining example of democracy in action. Whatever happens, this is a great thing - sets us apart from all other governments - the Founding Fathers built in an immune system into our body politic.

Sometimes, we just have to be awed by the brilliance of the constitution. The Founding Fathers were revolutionaries w/strong memories of tyranny. A significant number were lawyers. All believed that a free press was essential to democracy. Their goal was preserving democracy & never falling prey to a self-dealing tyrant that had caused them to sever themselves from Great Britain. Hence, the constitution w/checks & balances. They built in that political immune system based on the idea that Americans were united against tyrants. If Congress has evidence of self-dealing, power-grabbing, or acting against democratic principles, they're required to act. They are proceeding according to constitutional authority. They're conducting government business. They are not bringing the circus to town.

In the past 50 years, Congress had evidence that Nixon committed & covered up a crime. He resigned to avoid impeachment. They had evidence that Clinton lied under oath. He was rightfully impeached, but he wasn't voted out of office. Congress has evidence that Trump withheld lawfully appropriated funds from the Ukraine until his political rival was investigated by its government. An impeachment investigation is legally underway.

Congress is acting in accordance w/the constitution and the belief that the US is an independent democracy rather than a dictatorship just as those revolutionary Founding Fathers planned. No one is required to watch or read about it; Congress is just going about its business.







 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 01:29 PM
"In fact, the Founders had a broader conception of bribery than what’s in the criminal code. Their understanding was derived from English law, under which bribery was understood as an officeholder’s abuse of the power of an office to obtain a private benefit rather than for the public interest. This definition not only encompasses Trump’s conduct—it practically defines it." --Lawfareblog.com

Bribery is an imPEACHable offense. Read the Constitution.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 02:14 PM
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but imho, this is a witch hunt set in motion by a bunch of sore losers who've been reduced to grasping at straws.


You don’t believe this at all.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 04:21 PM
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I would agree in principle, but imho, this is a witch hunt set in motion by a bunch of sore losers who've been reduced to grasping at straws. A last chance "Hail Mary" before the Election and the stakes are high because if this is proven to be the Travesty I believe it is, President Trump will stroll back to the White House in his bedroom slippers.


JFC. Enough already. There's absolutely nothing Trump could do that would have you support a removal from office. Just come out and say it.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 04:40 PM
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. . .but imho, this is a witch hunt set in motion by a bunch of sore losers who've been reduced to grasping at straws.


Ok, so if it is a "witch hunt by sore losers" then there is nothing for the president to worry about. Maybe it is a witch hunt maybe it isn't. Maybe Trump is abusing powers of office, maybe he isn't. The questions have become strong enough to activate our political immune system.

The beauty of it is that we enjoy the unique privilege of having our concerns addressed legally. Our system of checks and balances at work, time-proven to stop natural political failings like witch hunts and dictatorships.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 05:49 PM
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Congress has evidence that Trump withheld lawfully appropriated funds from the Ukraine until his political rival was investigated by its government.
I guess they are just not going to share that evidence with anybody. They haven't yet anyway.

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Ok, so if it is a "witch hunt by sore losers" then there is nothing for the president to worry about.
BINGO! Except however when they fail to remove him from office, what is next? We had the Russian Collusion (FAIL) , Then we had quid pro quo (FAIL), now we have Extortion and it will fail as well.

Congressional approval of the Mexico & Canadian trade deal would be good for everyone. I guessing that is not on the left's agenda. There is not a single argument not to pass it. And if they vote, it will pass. We can't let that happen. It would look like trump was Making America Great Again.

So let this thing happen. Let them embarrass themselves, making certain that Trump is re-elected. When that happens everyone will be supportive right? Nope then the Americans who re-elect will be deemed morons. And we will complain about the electoral college....again.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 06:13 PM
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And we will complain about the electoral college....again.






 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 06:16 PM
We are a Democratic Republic and that guy used to be a democrat. I think that is one reason this is so frustrating for you folks. I like you brother why not tell us what is next? If he wins by a landslide in 2020 shouldn't he get a break?

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 06:23 PM
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You don’t believe this at all.


I do, but thanks for attempting to show me the light.

 

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We are a Democratic Republic and that guy used to be a democrat. I think that is one reason this is so frustrating for you folks. I like you brother why not tell us what is next? If he wins by a landslide in 2020 shouldn't he get a break?


Honestly I don't have a dog in this race and never did. "With malice toward none", my brother. Just happy to see America functioning as it should. I have shown some open support for Trump here, on matters that his supporters have been dead silent on. And bashed Obama on some things nobody else gave a crap about. Got my own perspective, independent.

This presidency has been very healthy for the country, it has functioned kind of like an allergy screening, got a bunch of stuff out to where we can see it and deal with it.

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 07:26 PM
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We are a Democratic Republic and that guy used to be a democrat. I think that is one reason this is so frustrating for you folks. I like you brother why not tell us what is next? If he wins by a landslide in 2020 shouldn't he get a break?

[Edited on 11/13/2019 by KCJimmy]


He’s an absolutely horrible human being. I’ll vote for whoever runs against him and if he wins again I’ll know that I didn’t support an absolutely horrible human being.

You folks can be smug about accepting this guy as your king all you want. The Democratic Republic bit is funny, though.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 07:45 PM
Unless you have ringmaster Schiff produce a blue dress there really isn't going to be any compelling evidence to convince me there was an actual plan that was put into motion.

 

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A historic moment, and a shining example of democracy in action. Whatever happens, this is a great thing - sets us apart from all other governments - the Founding Fathers built in an immune system into our body politic.


I would agree in principle, but imho, this is a witch hunt set in motion by a bunch of sore losers who've been reduced to grasping at straws. A last chance "Hail Mary" before the Election and the stakes are high because if this is proven to be the Travesty I believe it is, President Trump will stroll back to the White House in his bedroom slippers.


Disagree. This is no ''witch hunt'' (Lance Armstrong said that too). The president violated his authority using public policy for his own political gain. (If he was so concerned about Hunter Biden, why wasn't this brought up earlier at the beginning of his administration?) There is clear cause for an impeachment proceeding.

Personally, I'd rather see him voted out of office. That being said, if it turns out this is what does President Trump in, so be it. To hell with him.


 

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